Chinese dumping has become a central concern of Trump's trade policy


And yet the logical person would assume that those taxes are paid at the cash register and while not a guarantee, one might assume cheaper products or at least higher wages in return…

Got proof or is that yet another slanderous name drop?


Matched SS/FICA, Workers Comp so what we all pay into this stuff what is your point !
That our businesses deduct expenses ?
You seem stuck on welfare recipients ?

Most food stamp recipients do. In fact, in 2012 more than 47.8 percent of families receiving food stamp were working (the highest ever), and only 13.2 percent were welfare recipients with no working adults, according to the US Department of Agriculture.Oct 14, 2013

According to 2013 data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which administers the program, 40.2 percent of SNAP recipients are white, 25.7 percent are black, 10.3 percent are Hispanic, 2.1 percent are Asian and 1.2 percent are Native American.Feb 28, 2015

Women are more likely to seek help through welfare programs. Close to 25% of those aged 16 to 64 were receiving benefits as of 2011. Among men in the same age range, slightly more than 19% received some type of welfare.

Children are more likely to be on welfare than adults, with 38% of kids aged 5 and under living in households that receive public assistance. Almost 35% of kids aged 6 to 10 and 32% of those in the 11- to 15-year-old range are on welfare.

About 31% of people receiving any kind of public assistance stay in the program for a year or less. 43% receive benefits between 3 to 4 years. Housing assistance programs see the most long-term participants (over 3 years), while cash assistance program tend to have the most short-term participants (under a year).

There are approximately 40 million immigrants living in the U.S., both legal and illegal, and a decent number of them receive some form of welfare. For example, 20% of adult immigrants and nearly half of children from immigrant households had Medicaid coverage in 2011. About 30% of non-citizens received food stamps that same year.

Households headed by single mothers are the most likely to be on welfare. In 2011, single moms represented 55% of the total welfare population, compared to just 37% in 2000.

Seniors are often overlooked in discussions about welfare. Just shy of 13% of adults aged 65 and over are drawing some type of government benefit.

About 37% of people who did not graduate high school received welfare resistance, with about half of them needing aid for over 3 years. About 22% of high school graduates and 10% of those who attended college for at least a year received aid.

So 47.8 percent of families receiving food stamp were working ! What do you want to do with them as a job Nazi ?

So 35% of kids aged 6 to 10 and 32% of those in the 11- to 15-year-old range are on welfare. What do you want to do with them as a job Nazi ?

So just shy of 13% of adults aged 65 and over are drawing some type of government benefit.

That is around 98% some of these are probable entered two or maybe three times but we can see whats going on !


All allowed by our government
Both parties
YES but was it good for our nation did it made America greater then we were or is it a threat to American security ?
With most of the benefit and money going to around 10% no way was this globalist policy good for America !!!


MONEY is and always was the reason of offshoring American industries and jobs .
To start consumers had no other option then to buy cheap shit from third world country’s all of whom offered authoritarian governments no environmental laws they also offered forced , slave , child and cheap labor !
After years of flat wages helped by illegal immigration and NO new manufacturing jobs American consumers were forced to accept cheap shit from third world country’s !
American working citizens have paid in spades so that around 10% of this nation could get rich Communist China became a manufacturing giant to threaten Americas security while the American worker got rode hard and put up wet .


:laughing::laughing::laughing: More non-partisan horseshit from the keeper of all knowledge ! :laughing::laughing::laughing: What a bozo . :laughing::laughing::laughing:


Of course it is.

And consumers always have a choice to just say no.

Today I buy American unless it doesn’t exist.

I buy Fords/GM’s as the money states in the US but hav to be carful not to buy a vehicle manufactured in Mexico or Canada. Unfortunately, parts are made in China.

Imagine instead of buying products imported from China pool said no, I want Ameican made and am willing o pay more.

Tha will not happen.


And over 60% of Americans receive some type of government benefits from student loans to SS to medicaid.


There is NO choice for American citizens to buy anything made in America today and hasn’t been for fifty years TV coffee makers phones vacuum cleaners shirts shoes plates flat ware any of the things we use day to day . There are exceptions you mentioned automobiles air planes large farm equipment fire arms and they all hold their own on the world market !


Remember days gone by

We don’t want to manufacturer we want clean work and want to repair what they make

Now we throw it away and buy new as repair is to expensive


Yeah… we aren’t a dirty manufacturing company… we are a service economy… we flip burgers and export high quality code to be reverse engineered and mass copied elsewhere…


It’s why a trade war with China is a joke

We have transferred our rechnology and we are out of gas


That simply is not true, but there’s certainly not enough choices.


I hope you don’t think social security is some kind of government aid ?
Social Security self funded !!!

Social Security is funded with income from four sources. Social Security is primarily funded by payroll taxes assessed on wages in the United States. The employer pays 6.2% of income, and the employee chips in another 6.2%. The self-employed, being both employer and employee, pay 12.4% of income into the program.

In 2015, $795 billion (85 percent) of total Old-Age and Survivors Insurance and Disability Insurance income came from payroll taxes. The remainder was provided by interest earnings ( $93 billion or 10 percent) and revenue from taxation of OASDI benefits ( $32 billion or 3 percent), and $325 million in reimbursements from the General Fund of the Treasury - most resulting from the 2012 payroll tax legislation.

The 2015 Annual Report on the Social Security shows that for fiscal year 2014, the hospital insurance segment of Medicare received $227 billion from payroll taxes and another $18 billion from taxes on Social Security benefits. It also received $80 billion from premiums paid by beneficiaries and another $8.7 billion from transfers paid by states. Some $5 billion came in from reimbursement and another $243.7 billion came from the U.S. Treasury. Almost $5 billion came in from other miscellaneous sources, and then the Medicare administration reaped another $11.2 billion in interest income on its holdings for the year. These numbers total nearly $600 billion in 2014 and they are expected to increase modestly each year for the foreseeable future. Medicare constituted 14% of the $3 trillion federal budget in 2014, and Medicaid accounted for 9%.

The numbers listed above do not include the additional revenue that is being generated by the Unearned Income Medicare Contribution Tax. At the time that this tax was legislated in 2010, it was projected to bring in another $210 billion of revenue by 2019. However, while the Internal Revenue Service stated in the preamble to its list of regulations that this tax was a “surtax” on Medicare, the Joint Committee for Taxation specifically stated: “No provision is made for the transfer of the tax imposed by this provision from the General Fund of the United States Treasury to any Trust Fund.” The designated purpose of the money that is collected from this tax has therefore been left somewhat unclear.

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SCOTUS declared SS as well as medicare are entitlement programs and congress can change it any time they choose as they have in the past.

Considered alone, depletion of the DI Trust Fund is now projected in 2028.

But then again we all know there is no trust fund, just IOU’s payable by current taxpayers or borrowing until you cannot.


President Trump has a habit of saying what ever he wants that doesn’t make it gospel .
Congress will adjust the taxes and make the fund work again and again again and again again and again !
In 2017, nearly 62 million Americans will receive approximately $955 billion in Social Security benefits.
And they all vote !!!
Social Security benefits represent about 33% of the income of the elderly.
Almost everyone has had a mother and father grandmother and grandfather and most will vote to protect their well being !!!
Among elderly Social Security beneficiaries, 50% of married couples and 71% of unmarried persons receive 50% or more of their income from Social Security.
Among elderly Social Security beneficiaries, 23% of married couples and about 43% of unmarried persons rely on Social Security for 90% or more of their income.
This is truly TOO BIG TO FAIL !!!


I never alluded to it failing.

It will me overly mans tasted as will medicare in he future. No matter that the people being excluded will have maxed it out year after year but it is an entitlement program that is a pay as you go system with the illusion of a retirement for workers.


Then the system will serve the working men and women of America .


You miss the point.

The promise was, you contribute, you receive.

That will change into another welfare system…




I don’t see that happening congress has already added all the weight the system can handle .