Democrats and the State of the Union


#1

I understand that there is a long established tradition of everyone attending the State of the Union speech, and behaving in a dignified manner. The GOP started to break this down by showing open disrespect for President Obama (Alito shaking his head, Wilson shouting “You Lie!”) and under normal circumstances I would want the Democrats to ignore that, and show respect for the presidency. But with an openly racist president who is a frequent liar and shows dangerous authoritarian tendencies the democrats need to do something extraordinary.

I suggest they all attend the event. And then as soon as he is introduced by Paul Ryan, instead of applauding, they should begin a slow, steady procession, exiting the chambers gradually, so that it continues through the start of the speech. This would register strong protest, and at the same time it would likely send DT off script into a undignified rant.

It would be beautiful to see them ignoring him as they leave, and watch him melt down as it happens.


#3

I would love to see something like this to happen, but chances are very slim. However when you say a frequent liar, I disagree, everything that comes out of his mouth is a LIE! I would also love to see the news media other than Faux News, boycott this whole damned charade of a reality shit show orchestrated by the biggest shithead on the planet. to tell us how much he has accomplished and future plans to screw the rest of the people he has not had the time to screw yet. I can only imagine the future plans he has for this nation to “Make it Great” or "white again… If there was a way to piss on the whole republican party for standing behind this A–hole I would be for it.


#4

Democrats do not need to become the story, let Trump keep that mantle all to himself…


#5

Should the Dems try such a behavior, you could expect it to be repeated by the “loyal opposition” to each President, and the whole SOTU would be a farcical pontification by the sitting President.

On the other hand, if Trump did not take the bait, stuck to script, or better, made a joke (light, dignified, British dry, thank you) about the Dems caring more about pouting than helping the nation-it would indeed be a great spectacle.


#6

I had this exact thought, that the entire D caucus and perhaps some few conscience-having R’s would just silently walk out, one every five minutes or so. It’s perfectly respectful, and it’s going to be very boring compared to the response from the podium!


#7

I understand how you guys twist the racist thing by taking his words and adding your own spin but I would like one of you to tell me how you turn his actions into that of an authoritarian. Care to explain?

You guys just don’t get Trump… He will do with them exactly what he did in the DACA meeting… use their own lack of cooperation against them… He knows how petty democrats are and getting them to act their worst is far too easy…


#8

Arm flailing dems have already made themselves the story when they started inventing a rather ghastly narrative them minute it looked like Trump would win the election…


#9

See, this is the interesting thing here… he is racist because you say he is trying to ‘make America White Again’… isn’t it just as racist to deliberately attempt to change the skin color of America to another color for the sole purpose of ‘browning America’? I mean if the motive is to change or keep the ‘color’ of the country a certain way without regard for the character of the people use… isn’t that precisely a racist process? When diversity became an issue of color… it became a racist issue No? Trump didn’t do that… progressives did.


#10

I think I can top this fantasy . In my fantasy the democrats stonewall the Presidents good faith attempt to get a DACA bill ICE rounds up every illegal in the nation for deportation ! I want you remember to thank tricky dick durben !

Republicans and Democrats negotiated in good faith to reach a deal that gives you what you asked for in front of the country on Tuesday. It’s time to lead and support the bipartisan deal. twitter.com/realdonaldt…

I cannot believe that in the history of the White House, in that Oval Office, any president has ever spoken the words that I personally heard our president speak yesterday. President Trump said things that were hate-filled, vile, and racist. He used those words repeatedly. pic.twitter.com/6gHW5cL…

I don’t know I have heard LBJ and Nixon use much more colorful language . Obama was not above using shit as a adjective !

I do remember when Barack Obama two years ago referred to Libya as a ‘ess-sheet,’ er, uh, ‘ess-show,’” Blackwell said.

But thanks to former U.K. Prime Minister David Cameron’s inattention to the matter, the Arab Republic has become a “sh*tshow,” Obama said.

Durban shot the DACA kids in the back for his political gain ! This just reflects the defunct party’s desperation in the face of President Trumps success . After losing the working class vote in key states and threatened by the fact that black employment is at a all time high along with manufacturing moving back from Mexico 401ks setting records they are losing more of their base !


#11

Just in case you miss it here are a few accomplishments that come to mind .

  1. Judicial appointments

President Trump shattered an all-time record earlier this month when the Senate confirmed his 12th federal appeals court nominee, marking the only time in history a U.S. president has made more than 11 appellate appointments during his first year !

  1. Tax reform

Very few political strategists thought Trump could pass a tax bill earlier this fall after congressional Republicans failed to fulfill their promise of repealing and replacing Obamacare.

Months of intreparty squabbling, disagreements between Republican leaders and White House officials, and provocative tweets from the president ultimately doomed GOP efforts to undo healthcare law. But when it came to overhauling the tax code – a top priority for Trump and House Speaker Paul Ryan – things changed on Capitol Hill.

Stricter messaging by Trump and the threat of entering a midterm year without one major legislative victory led to the president’s signing of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act on Dec. 22. In addition to slashing the corporate tax rate from 35 to 21 percent, the landmark legislation cut individual rates for all income tax levels, doubled the child tax credit to $2,000, and dramatically increased the standard deduction.

In the end, the bill negotiated by House and Senate conferees and passed by Congress just before Christmas featured the largest tax cuts since 1986.

  1. Individual mandate repeal

Through tax reform, Trump fulfilled another key campaign promise: repealing Obamacare’s individual mandate.

Senate Republicans included a measure to kill the mandate in their initial tax bill, paving the way for its subsequent inclusion in the final tax reform package that cleared the president’s desk. The mandate, which required Americans to carry health insurance or pay an annual penalty as part of Obamacare, was long seen by GOP voters as the worst element of the 2010 healthcare law.

Public opinion polls taken in the months leading up to the final healthcare vote showed between 51 and 65 percent of self-identified Republicans opposed the individual mandate.

The White House has already signaled its eagerness to undo the rest of the healthcare law when Trump returns to Washington for his second year in office.

  1. Deregulation

During its monthslong legislative dry spell, the Trump administration touted deregulation as an area in which the president continued to make progress despite congressional gridlock.

Trump came into office promising to slash two existing regulations for each new one his administration enacts. The president has since said the White House beat its goal “by a lot” this year, as officials canceled or delayed more than 1,500 regulations in the first 11 months of Trump’s presidency.

The administration has said Trump ultimately cut 22 regulations for each new one enacted this year, saving taxpayers billions of dollars over the coming years.

Trump has repeatedly credited his deregulation push with the economic growth that has flourished during his first year in office.

  1. Cutting government waste

Less than three months into his presidency, Trump issued an executive order directing every federal agency to determine “where money is being wasted [and] how services can be improved.” Though the order never set a desired number for the cuts, several Cabinet-level departments have since found ways to shrink their payroll and consolidate internal programs.

The most attention-grabbing reforms have occurred at the State Department, where Secretary of State Rex Tillerson has eliminated several coordinators for sanctions policy, offered early retirement incentives to hundreds of career employees, and promised to “redesign” the agency.

Office of Management and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney has also been busy overseeing the reduction of duplicative programs and wasteful spending. His agency killed 59 guidance and policy documents in June that officials had deemed “obsolete” or inefficient.

Not everything Trump has done, however, has helped cut bureaucracy or reduce government spending. Both the president and several Cabinet secretaries have come under fire for continuing to live lavish lifestyles – sometimes on the taxpayer dime. Department of Air Force records obtained last week by the conservative group Judicial Watch showed that American taxpayers paid approximately $6.6 million just in airfare this year for Trump to visit his Mar-a-Lago club in West Palm Beach, Fla.

And it’s hard to forget former Health and Human Services Secretary Tom Price, whom the president fired in late September after he was caught chartering private planes on the federal dime.

  1. Travel ban

Despite initially attracting criticism from across the political spectrum for its botched rollout, Trump’s so-called travel ban scored a major victory later this year when the Supreme Court ruled to allow the entire policy to take effect.

The administration was forced to revise the policy in September following several lawsuits in federal court and a partial ruling by the Supreme Court. Administration officials added North Korea, Venezuela, and Chad to its list of countries from which immigrants would temporarily be blocked from entering the U.S., and removed Sudan. The original ban had drawn scrutiny from liberal critics of the administration for imposing a “religious test,” as it exclusively targeted seven Muslim-majority countries: Iran, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen.

Such legal complaints — brought by the state of Hawaii and the American Civil Liberties Union — failed to hold up when the revised version of the ban came before the nine-member Supreme Court in early December. Despite previous moves by lower-court judges to limit its scope, the high court permitted the updated ban to be implemented pending appeal.

“The Constitution and acts of Congress confer on the President broad authority to prevent aliens abroad from entering this country when he deems it in the nation’s interest,” U.S. Solicitor General Noel Francisco had argued in court papers ahead of the decision.

  1. Defeating the Islamic State

Trump repeatedly credited his decision to ease restrictions on the rules of engagement with the military’s victory over the Islamic State in key strongholds this year.

When U.S.-backed coalition forces drove Islamic State fighters from their headquarters in Raqqa, Syria in October, the White House highlighted Trump’s efforts to give commanders on the ground more decision-making authority than his predecessor gave them. The liberation of Raqqa marked a pivotal moment in the war against the Islamic State.

Critics have claimed the defeat of the Islamic State came as a result of the strategy Trump’s predecessor put in place. However, the Trump administration made a series of strategic decisions that supporters say made the difference in the years-long battle against the extremist group in Iraq and Syria.

For example, Trump decided in March to arm the Syrian Kurds in their fight against the Islamic State, a move the Obama administration had considered but never executed due to Turkey’s strong objections. The Trump administration has since pulled support from the group.

The terror organization saw its numbers and territorial holdings decimated this year. A U.S-led coalition helped to free Mosul from the Islamic State in July, a victory that denied the extremist group the largest city under their control. In early October, coalition forces notched another victory when 1,000 Islamic State fighters surrendered as Iraqi Security Forces closed in on Hawija, the last of the terror group’s strongholds in Iraq.

  1. Recognition of Jerusalem

Despite pressure to preserve a status quo that his predecessors had left untouched for decades in Israel, Trump made waves on the international stage this month when he formally recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and announced plans to move the U.S. embassy there from its present location in Tel Aviv.

Trump had vowed as a presidential candidate to move the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, and the White House framed his decision in early December as the fulfillment of a campaign promise. But administration officials also characterized the move as a natural step for a president who ascribes to a no-nonsense worldview, given the reality that Israel’s government is located in the city it has long recognized as its own capital.

Former presidents from Bill Clinton to Barack Obama had granted waivers that allowed the U.S. embassy in Israel to remain in Tel Aviv despite legislation Congress passed in 1995 that required the embassy to move to Jerusalem. Previous administrations cited concerns about the effects such a move would have on the Israeli-Palestinian peace process when delaying the embassy relocation effort for more than 20 years.

Trump, however, decided he could not sign the second waiver to arrive at his desk since taking office without signaling a policy change toward Jerusalem. Although Trump’s critics warned that his recognition of the contested city as Israel’s capital would spark violence and instability across the Arab world, the administration ultimately calculated that the move was worth any potential backlash.

Addressing criticism of the policy change in a speech earlier this month, Trump questioned why his administration should deny Israel recognition of its capital in an effort to preserve peace talks when years of following that exact strategy had yielded no progress.

  1. Withdrawal from Paris climate agreement

Trump’s decision in June to pull the U.S. out of a sweeping international climate pact drew some of the loudest and most pointed criticisms from his liberal detractors to date. Proponents of the climate deal claimed the U.S. would forever lose prestige in the global community if it walked away from the agreement, which former President Obama had negotiated without congressional input.

But Trump ultimately followed through on a campaign promise to withdraw from the agreement despite objections from several of his closest advisers. The internal negotiations pitted his daughter and son-in-law, Jared Kushner, against some of his more populist advisers, such as then-chief strategist Steve Bannon and EPA chief Scott Pruitt.

The outcome of the battle behind closed doors in the West Wing was viewed at the time as a major victory for the nationalist wing of the White House staff, which had counseled Trump not to cave under pressure to soften his hardline position on the Paris deal by simply criticizing it or offering to renegotiate it.


#12

Of course being utterly unable to do so, he’d dive into an off script rant unrelated to the condition of the US.


#13

You must not have seen a single Trump rally. He has command of the podium and can go off teleprompter as needed. The best parts usually come when he’s not following the script. I prefer not to have politicians who need teleprompters in order to speak to the public. Maybe you like your Manchurian Candidates. I’m tired of them.


#14

The SOTUA isn’t a rally. :roll_eyes:


#15

His mistake was treating durben as a man . Not understanding the bitch was masquerading he look like and sounded like a man but he was just another left wing politician playing games with DACA life’s the people he is supposedly working for . Grandstanding to the elitist and fucking the people nothing new !


#16

The TIC said on Tuesday of last week that he trusted the people in the room to bring him a bipartisan bill, swearing to take any heat that either party would get from their constituencies, and that even if he personally didn’t like it he’d sign it. And, within two days a bipartisan group laid the heat on his desk and he pussied out.


#17

Was their a bill laid on his desk?.. I missed that veto… well… if it was a properly ordained bill that would mean that he would have to sign it… or pigeon hole it… or veto it… could you point me to the information I need to see just what happened there.? No?.. I didn’t think so…

P.S.

The group includes Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Dick Durbin (D-IL), Jeff Flake (R-AZ), Michael Bennet (D-CO), Cory Gardner (R-CO), and Robert Menendez (D-NJ)

That would be 'bipartisan if you are counting R’s and D’s… but if you count open border ideology… they are very much on the same side…


#18

No, his mistake was calling a bunch of nonwhite nations “shitholes” and asking for more pasty white Norwegians to be brought in. He didn’t like the heat that the bipartisan group laid on his desk and rejected their plan. So he’s not going to sign a bill based upon what Durban and Graham proposed. That makes him a liar.


#19

So… if he had called Norway a shithole for some definable reason… would he still be a racist?.. would wanting only university graduates from Nigeria make him a racist for calling the general condition of Nigeria as shithole?.. Democratic semantics… nothing more.


#20

The dems tried the same walk out thing during the inaugural to no benefit. Trump just moved forward as detailed above.

Mentally the dems have checked out since 2010 when the paradigm occurred. The leftist media attempts to prop them up but they are essentially brain dead for another generation.


#21

Democrats aren’t going to walk out of the SOTUA, that’s just an op wet dream.