Dutch Spies Reveal Russian DNC Hack: Not Relevant, Say US Media


Another day and the Mainstream Media are again doing their level best to Make America Stupid Again.

Ash Sharp

So it turns out that seven years ago a porn actress gave an interview saying she banged Donald J. Trump 11 years ago and was paid a handsome sum as an NDA two years ago. Stormy Daniels appears on Jimmy Kimmel this week, folks! But you knew that already. That's all the press can talk about. Well, that and Nutella riots.

What you might not know is that it has finally come to light thanks to the Dutch media that there is conclusive proof of Russian interference in the 2016 Election. The facts are in. According to Volkskrant, a highly reputable news source in the Netherlands:

Three American intelligence services state with 'high confidence' that the Kremlin was behind the attack on the Democratic Party. That certainty, sources say, is derived from the AIVD (Dutch intelligence service) hackers having had access to the office-like space in the center of Moscow for years.

The same news site reported candidly how the FBI, President Obama and the DNC all dropped the ball. Tens of thousands of e-mails came to the streets via Wikileaks, bringing to light the favoring of Clinton over Bernie Sanders- causing the fall of Debbie Wassermann Schultz and the unmasking of the Podesta Brothers as being... well, we're still trying to work that one out.

Whether the hacks have pushed Clinton over the edge we cannot know. Even without the hacks, Clinton was a weak candidate: however strong she was, she dragged her entangled ambitions and the burden of a dynastic power with her, while the electorate was waiting for the weightlessness of an outsider.

The upshot today is that President Trump's denial of the reality of the Russian hack must come to an end. The evidence is now there for us all to see and corroborated by multiple international and domestic intelligence agencies. We can now take it as fact that Russian hacker group 'Cozy Bear' infiltrated both the DNC, The White House and were thwarted in their attempts to access The State Department. Thanks to Dutch intelligence services who had access to Cozy Bear for over two years beginning in 2014.

Naturally, Russian presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov rejected the Dutch reports on Friday.

“If Dutch newspapers want to add fuel to the fire of anti-Russian hysteria that exists in America, this is not the most noble occupation,” he said, according to Russia's Tass news agency.

We can now say with qualified certainty that Donald Trump did not collude with Russian agents in order to influence the election. Not only does this evidence from the Dutch intelligence service AIVD rule out Cozy Bear from taking instruction from Donald Trump. As CBS News' Jeff Pegues reports:

Investigators believe that Putin initially wanted to damage Hillary Clinton and to inject chaos and doubt into the election process, reported CBS News correspondent Jeff Pegues. U.S. officials said it was an added bonus that Donald Trump, then seen as more friendly to Russian interests, became the Republican nominee.

This is the understanding I hold, also. Despite the best efforts of the Fake News media establishment to push the idea of the Trump colluding with Russian agents, it is preposterous. The timeline doesn't fit, the evidence doesn't fit either. Robert Mueller's investigation must soon conclude its investigation into the Trump administration, and return to establishing the facts of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

It is not as if the concept of Russia hacking elections for the sake of it is off the table- the Netherlands themselves ran a pen and paper, hand counted ballot in 2017. Even the New York Times reported on it.

“The cabinet cannot exclude the possibility that state actors might gain advantage from influencing political decision-making and public opinion in the Netherlands and might use means to try and achieve such influence,” Interior Minister Ronald Plasterk said in a statement. “We’re talking about actors that both have the intention and ability to do this.”

Clever cloggies. You can also take as fact that Russian hackers and disinformation teams are going to try to influence European elections as they come around in 2018. Some reports from the Czech Republic allege that the narrow victory for pro-Russian incumbent Milos Zeman had a helping hand from Russian smears against his opponent.

The reason why the reality of the Russian hacks has been ignored by the Mainstream Media is that even when irrefutable evidence has been unearthed, it damages the narrative of #TrumpRussia. It turns out the President is wrong. Russia did hack the election. It also turns out that almost certainly the President is innocent of colluding with foreign agents as if that was ever in doubt by serious people.

As we know already, CNN and Chums are not serious people. Robyn Curnow at CNN International interviewed the Dutch journalist who broke this story, but for some reason, that is as far as it goes. Jim Acosta, where are you at? I thought you were some kind of real newsman? This staggering news story is too mundane, without a clear bad-guy to oppose with politically weaponized moral outrage.

Even a fair and balanced article from the Washington Post is buried under lurid Stormy Daniels tales and lies about Nikki Haley. It is nothing short of a tragedy that Rick Noack's fine reporting is both out of sight and surrounded by total silence from his colleagues. Even the Pro-Trump Fox News cover the story in passing on Fox Business. So afraid is the Mainstream Media on both sides of damaging their own positions that they will make no report at all. From Noack's report in the WaPo:

In a congressional report released this January, Democrats raised renewed concerns about mounting evidence of Russian interference in at least 19 European nations.

The report, commissioned by Sen. Benjamin L. Cardin (D-Md.) and numbering more than 200 pages, directly criticizes President Trump for failing to respond to the threat, even as other nations in Europe have taken much stronger measures to counter Russian efforts in the region. “Never before has a president ignored such a clear national security threat,” Cardin wrote in an op-ed for The Post.

While being naturally partisan in his damning assessment of the President -the blame is actually shared by many at institutional level- the kernel of truth remains. The establishment at large in the United States on both sides of the divide have failed to respond to a clear and present Russian hack threat. The DNC, NSA and the FBI all failed to respond with the required alacrity or intelligence before the election began. President Trump may well have been hedging his bets or playing politics until he knew for sure that Russian agents had indeed interfered. That policy must now end.

Russian agents are hacking the Western World. Time for politicians to put aside the bickering and figure out a solution, in the national interest.

This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://republicstandard.com/russian-dnc-hack-not-relevant-say-us-media/


The Russian collusion thingy has kept small minds busy for over a year and will go on for awhile before another fake news crisis appears.


I hope that the release of documents will immediately expose not only the corruption of the FBI and DOJ but also the corruption within the Dutch security service the AIVD. #ReleaseTheMemo


I don’t think that’s likely tbh.


So much democratic resistance to releasing the memo but they preached transparency for over a year , what changed ? :roll_eyes: #ReleaseTheMemo :crossed_fingers:


Dutch intelligence agents notified the Obama Administration of Russia’s hacking efforts. Obama didn’t do dick about it. As usual, we’re less safe because of his failures.


Whatever happened to the original story that the Obama Administration put out about the 17 intelligence agencies concluding that the election had not been hacked? That was the original story that Obama came out with.


Not quite- http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/441266/hillary-clinton-democratic-emails-hacked-russia

. . . are consistent with the methods and motivations of Russian-directed efforts. These thefts and disclosures are intended to interfere with the US election process. Such activity is not new to Moscow — the Russians have used similar tactics and techniques across Europa and Eurasia, for example, to influence public opinion there. We believe, based on the scope and sensitivity of these efforts, that only Russia’s senior-most officials could have authorized these activities.

Clinton/Obama tried to spin it as conclusive proof of a hack, which was a mistake. The methods were consistent and worthy of investigation & defense against, which the DNC, NSA & FBI had routinely failed at previously. As it turns out, Russians did hack the DNC and tried to go after State, but as we now hear deafening silence from the left wing MSM, all we can conclude is that this evidence exonerates Trump from everything except stating ‘Russia DIndu Nuffin, Putin is a good boy.’

Otherwise Stormy Daniels wouldn’t be rammed down your throat- it would be this story.

Which is bigger:

a) Dutch Intelligence proves Trump-Russia is real
b) A hooker might have had sex with Trump over a decade ago


Actually, this is the yet another sad result of Trump’s bad behavior. He has been attacking the credibility of the intelligence community since he took office and the IC apparently felt the need to leak some confirming info. This story has pissed off the Dutch, having exposed methods and sources.

So in defending themselves from Trump the IC damaged relations with a friendly agency.

The Dutch are not the only foreign intelligence source—I heard the border countries, like Estonia, had supplied some intercepts to the CIA, who handed them off to the FBI.

I was amazed to read that the Dutch had hacked the video feeds and had images of the hackers. This is the kind of thing, though, that made the Dutch really unhappy to read about in a U.S. paper.


I wonder what intel is presently being shared with our intelligence services. Watching from abroad while the FBI and CIA are constantly being undermined by not only Trump but his allies in congress has to make foreign services very apprehensive.

While his base is chanting for the wall to be built they are willfully ignorant of how much we are at risk due to these very public attacks on domestic intelligence services.


As far as I know, the most complete picture of the hacking is Malcolm Nance’s book “The Plot to Hack America”, which detailed the view from our end of the activities of Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear, also know as Advanced Persistent Threats (APT 29 for Cozy Bear). I’m sure our Intel services have a better picture than that.


Yes he has and wouldn’t you know… they were conspiring! Conspiring to steal an election!

Execute any bastard that had anything to do with this!

the crime of betraying one’s country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.


Maybe. I think it’s entirely possible Cozy Bear moved on to a different location/or figure it all once all the heat became apparent and this is not currently relevant intelligence. I don’t think the US would leak something like this (and perhaps they actually didn’t do the leaking). I think it’s worthwhile to also send a missile over the bow that says, hey, we know way more than you think. It’s pretty significant pressure. I think it would be far more of an issue if this was currently ongoing at that location. Cozy Bear knows they are known about. This is par for the course.


This article describes that the Dutch penetration ended a while ago. It is not ongoing, but was still closely held info. Someone who knew let it out.

The idea that it was our IC defending itself is conjecture by the Dutch or the writer. Could have been a Congressman.


Of course publishing in the press the leaked transcript of the presidents phone calls with foreign leaders would be of little concern… :roll_eyes:


They don’t see it that way. They only see the poor innocent intelligence agencies who have never done anything wrong. So naive. The intelligence agencies are in the business of overthrowing governments


I’m still waiting for all of these intelligence groups to reconcile the only hard evidence of the transfer off of the DNC serve was impossible to do over the internet. The download speeds were just to great and must have been done locally… This simple bit of analysis gets overlooked time and time again… of course, if it doesn’t fit the narrative, you don’t want to address the elephant in the room…


got a link to give the overview?


This is a long winded version of many events involving ‘Russiagate’… if you go down to the paragraph that starts with the Bold ‘F’ that is the essence of the work. This story got some coverage and then like Seth Rich, it just died…


A lot to get through, I’ll start in the morning.