Elizabeth Warren punts on DNA test to prove Native American ancestry: ‘I know who I am’ Cherokee claims continue to dog Massachusetts Democrat


Or should it say I know who I’m pretending to be???

Sen. Elizabeth Warren sought Sunday to bolster her shaky claims of Cherokee ancestry with the story of how her racist grandparents drove her parents to elope.
But Cherokee genealogist Twila Barnes says that account has its own credibility issues.

Ms. Barnes, who said her research into Ms. Warren’s family found “no evidence” of Native American ancestry, has challenged key elements of the senator’s tale of how her parents, Pauline Reed and Donald Herring, defied his parents by running off to marry.

“The problem with Warren’s story is that none of the evidence supports it,” said Ms. Barnes in a 2016 post on her Thoughts from Polly’s Granddaughter blog. “Her genealogy shows no indication of Cherokee ancestry. Her parents’ wedding doesn’t resemble an elopement. And additional evidence doesn’t show any indication of her Herring grandparents being Indian haters.”

Faced with renewed scrutiny over her heritage, however, Ms. Warren appeared Sunday on three morning news shows to give context to her claim of minority status made during her stints on the Harvard and University of Pennsylvania law faculties.

“You know, my mom and dad were born and raised out in Oklahoma, and my daddy was in his teens when he fell in love with my mother,” said the Massachusetts Democrat. “She was a beautiful girl who played the piano. And he was head over heels in love with her and wanted to marry her. And his family was bitterly opposed to that because she was part Native American.”

As a result, “eventually my parents eloped,” Ms. Warren said on “Fox News Sunday.”

The Berkshire [Massachusetts] Eagle called last week on Ms. Warren to take a DNA test, a suggestion seconded by Boston Globe columnist Joan Vennochi, saying she “has nothing to lose but her Achilles’ heel” as the issue comes back to haunt her reelection campaign.

Ms. Warren deflected the DNA question Sunday by saying “I know who I am.”

“I know who I am because of what my mother and my father told me, what my grandmother and my grandfather told me, what all my aunts and uncles told me, and my brothers,” Ms. Warren said. “It’s a part of who I am and no one’s ever going to take that away.”
The senator is not an enrolled member of any tribe, but has cited family lore to support her claim.

While Ms. Warren may genuinely believe the story of her star-crossed parents, Ms. Barnes has argued that the documentation doesn’t back it up.

She cited the friendship between Grant Herring, Ms. Warren’s paternal grandfather, and Carnall Wheeler, who was listed on the Cherokee Nation roll and mocked in his Virginia Military Institute yearbook as an “aboriginal.”

Documents show that the two played golf together and that Mr. Wheeler attended a 25th anniversary party for the Herrings in 1936.

“Clearly, Wheeler experienced some degree of racism in his life due to his being Indian,” said Ms. Barnes. “Despite this, there is one person we know who did not have a problem associating with him — Grant Herring, the grandfather of Elizabeth Warren, the same grandfather she claims was racist against Indians.”

The post was headlined, “Did Warren invent the story of racist grandparents?”

After Ms. Warren said in the Globe that her mother told her “nobody came to her wedding at all,” Ms. Barnes looked it up and found that her mother’s friend witnessed the ceremony, which was performed by a prominent Methodist clergyman, not a justice of the peace.

“This marriage does not look like an elopement. It looks very much like a Depression-era marriage ceremony instead,” said Ms. Barnes in an August 2012 post.

“Sometimes people didn’t have a lot of money to spend on a wedding so they just obtained their license, got married and then went back home.”

She also found a detailed wedding announcement posted in the local newspaper in Wetumka, Oklahoma.

“If Ms. Warren’s parents eloped due to her mother being ‘Cherokee and Delaware’ and it was such a disgrace, why did they rush back to Wetumka the same day they were married and proudly announce it to everyone?” asked Ms. Barnes. “If there was shame associated with the marriage and it caused so many problems, why was it happily announced in the local paper?”

Given that Ms. Warren’s father had just turned 21, the age after which he could legally marry in Oklahoma without his parents’ permission, “Maybe his parents feared if he got married, he would drop out of college. And according to the evidence, that is exactly what happened,” she said.

Cornell Law School professor William A. Jacobson vouched for the credibility of Ms. Barnes‘ fact-finding.

“I have never seen anything that called into question the integrity of Twila Barnes‘ research,” said Mr. Jacobson, who runs the Legal Insurrection blog. “To the contrary, she has meticulously researched Warren’s family lineage demonstrating no Native American ancestry, as well as facts rebutting Warren’s family lore stories.”

Accusations that Ms. Warren gamed the system to advance her legal career have dogged her since her first Senate race in 2012, although she has insisted — and the universities have backed her up — that she received no preferential treatment in hiring by citing Native American ancestry.

President Trump has drawn attention to the issue by dubbing her “Pocahontas,” prompting Ms. Warren to accuse him of making racial slurs and increase her focus on Native American issues.

“I went to speak to Native American tribal leaders, and I made a promise to them, that every time President Trump wants to try to throw out some kind of racial slur, he wants to try to attack me, I’m going to use it as a chance to lift up their stories,” Ms. Warren told CNN’s “State of the Union.”

She pointed to the high rates of violence against Native American women.

“Native women are subjected to sexual violence at rates much higher than any other group in our country,” Ms. Warren said. “We need to put some focus on this, and we need to make some changes on this. We owe it to people living in Native communities.”


Sen. Elizabeth Warren doubled down on her disputed story about a Native American heritage in a recent TV appearance, but an expert says her story just doesn’t add up. THAT’S MY LIE AND I’M STICKING TO IT !!! :wink::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:


I never thought that Elizabeth Warren could make herself look any dumber than she already does. She can just take the test if she is so convinced. I’m sure she’s worried about getting sued into oblivion for using affirmative action to her benefit as a white person.


It would destroy her narrative of look at me, I’m a minority and with you.


Maybe she’ll speak before the Senate dressed in Indian clothes.


Funny. Like one popular company that offers dna testing has pointed out, it’s not concrete.

Currently 23andMe has several features that can reveal genetic evidence of Native American ancestry, although they are not considered a confirmatory test or proof of such ancestry in a legal context.

It is important to note that even if an individual in your family tree was considered to be Native American, your own DNA may not reveal the Native American ancestry because evidence is lost each generation.

EW should blow the TIC off.


Of course she should as she’s clearly a liar and refuses to prove her claims.

Perhaps the country should blow off EW.


PocaBullshit smoking heap much poisoned tobacco, makeum heap big fake claims, lookum like heap big idiot.


Monte is defending Elizabeth Warren! Just come out and tell everyone that you are a hardcore socialist Democrat.

If a conservative politician did exactly what Warren has done there would be protests, the media would be talking about it nonstop, and Democrats would be demanding an investigation along with a disavow, apology, and resignation.

But it’s ok for Elizabeth Warren to pretend she’s a Native American. Hypocrite.


No, I’m not a fan of a lot of her positions. But these dna tests for ancestry aren’t decisive enough for legal purposes. Btw, there aren’t many native Americans left if you’re talking about 100%, lots of Americans married into Native American race and share decreasing amounts of the dna. Lots of Americans look very white/European though they posses roll cards. Some didn’t accept roll cards and some families opposed marrying into Native American culture, as was the case of EW’s grandparents. But it’s not even a matter worth fretting over.


I guess you didn’t want to tackle the rest of my post Mr. Hypocrisy.


That the left would be raising hell if the situation was reversed. That hypocrisy is readily visible in BOTH parties constantly. You know what to do by now if you’d like to see something different.


Nah…you only call out one side. You’re a part of the problem. A big part of the problem because you are incapable of discussion and only make the most toxic statements possible. Then you say to do something different. What the hell does that even mean anyway. If you truly wanted to stop the divisiness in this country you wouldn’t post the way that you do. Really shameful.


It only tales 1/64th of native American blood to be considered by a tribe for membership.

As a side note people point out the lie unless she has proof, possible stories that are not verifiable isn’t enough for consideration as a native American status nor should she have claimed the status for employment purposes which you seem to conveniently ignore.


Not true, you describe yourself, I call out the left regularly.


Vote independent if you’re tired of the same old from the republicans and democrats, shrug.


I’ve been discussing Elizabeth Warren and her claims to be part Native American for multiple posts now. It’s hard to prove as I pointed out earlier and doesn’t matter.


And stealing the cook book she claimed hers …:wink:


It matter when you claim minority status and steal and position from more deserving . Shrug :roll_eyes:


What and end up with an old fat ass tike Bernie???