Iran Has Test Fired a Ballistic Missile


#41

Annex II – Sanctions-related commitments
The sequence of implementation of the commitments detailed in this Annex is specified in
Annex V (Implementation Plan) to this Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA).

A. European Union[1]

  1. The EU and EU Member States commit to terminate all provisions of Council Regulation
    (EU) No 267/2012 (as subsequently amended) implementing all nuclear-related
    sanctions or restrictive measures as specified in Sections 1.1-1.10 below, to terminate
    all provisions of Council Decision 2010/413/CFSP (as subsequently amended), as
    specified in Sections 1.1-1.10 below, and to terminate or amend national implementing
    legislation as required, in accordance with Annex V:

…Arms

Sanctions on arms (Articles 1(1)©, (3) and (4), and 3 of Council Decision
2010/413/CFSP; Articles 5(1)(a) and ©, 17(1) and (2)(a), and 19 of Council Regulation
(EU) No 267/2012); and

Sanctions on associated services for the category above (see the references above).

Listing of persons, entities and bodies (asset freeze and visa ban)

Asset freeze and visa ban measures applicable to:

listed Iranian banks and financial institutions, including the Central Bank of Iran;

listed persons, entities and bodies related to the oil, gas and petrochemical sectors;

listed persons, entities and bodies related to shipping, shipbuilding and transport;

other listed persons, entities and bodies not related to proliferation-sensitive nuclear-,
arms- and ballistic missile- related activities;

Missiles are part of the agreement. No sanctions were lifter/terminated related to missiles.


#42

Was it America? It was the president and he was forced to let congress see it! The majority in congress voted to kill it but there just were not enough to keep it dead.


#43

As I’ve said now, Iran is compliant and Corker agrees that the agreement should be kept, shrug.


#44

And when they nuke someone? It will not bother you because you will not be there.


#45

Again, only one nation on earth has ever done that. Probably shouldn’t be throwing stones.


#46

Is that all you got? If you hate the US so much, leave. But as we agree in principle on many things, keep fighting to change it.


#47

Wtf??? Acknowledging that the US is the only nation to have ever used nukes equates to hating America. I tell you what, maybe we can learn from mistakes and make America better.


#48

You have been coming down on the US mighty hard.


#49

What??? We developed the nuclear bomb and then deployed it on two civilian targets. President Eisenhower long ago declared how wrong and unnecessary that was.


#50

A procedural vote fell two short of the 60 needed to break a Democratic filibuster.

The Dem’s prevented the congress from voting on the agreement.

One could say it’s in effect others say it requires a vote from congress.

This like the ACA fiasco shows how corrupt the democrats truly are.


#51

Actually at the time it was necessary and it saved many lives.

A few hundred thousand dead.

Was the use of the atomic bomb inhuman? All war is inhuman. Here are some comparisons of the atomic bombing with conventional bombing. At Hiroshima the atomic bomb killed about 80,000 people, pulverized about five square miles, and wrecked an additional ten square miles of the city, with decreasing damage out to seven or eight miles from the center. At Nagasaki the fatal casualties were 45,000 and the area wrecked was considerably smaller than at Hiroshima because of the configuration of the city.

Compare this with the results of two B-29 incendiary raids over Tokyo. One of these raids killed about 125,000 people, the other nearly 100,000.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1946/12/if-the-atomic-bomb-had-not-been-used/376238/

Nonetheless, I also believe that President Harry Truman’s decision to use the atomic bombs against Japan almost certainly saved lives. This is undoubtedly true if one accepts the arguments of U.S. leaders at the time; namely, that not using the atomic bomb would have forced the U.S. to launch a full invasion of Japan’s home islands, and this would have killed far more people than Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

It’s impossible to know how many people would have perished if allied forces invaded Japan. However, given the stiff resistance U.S. and allied forces faced during the island-hopping campaign of the Pacific War, it would have been many, many times greater than the 200,000+ people that died from the atomic bombings.

In fact, the casualties from the U.S. strategic conventional bombing campaign greatly eclipsed the number of individuals who died from the atomic bombings. The March 1945 firebombing of Tokyo alone killed some 120,000 Japanese. A ground invasion would have resulted in nearly immeasurable more casualties. As one scholar who studied the U.S. invasion plan, Operation Downfall, notes: “depending on the degree to which Japanese civilians resisted the invasion, estimates ran into the millions for Allied casualties and tens of millions for Japanese casualties.”


#52

In just the Battle of Okinawa alone, the invasion and securing of the tiny islands cost over 90,000 Japanese military deaths, close to 50,000 Allied deaths, and from 75,000 to 140,000 civilians dead or missing.
That’s a total of around 280,000 lives lost to secure just a foothold from which to invade the main Japanese islands.


#53

#54

Of course this discussion around war is why the US has failed to achieve any military victories since WWII… War is not human and never should be seen that way.

As hideous as the atomic bomb was… Japan was warned… As hideous as Dresden was… Germany was warned. It is high time we actually look at any conflict where we put even one American in harms way and ask… ‘are we prepared to warn a nation that if they don’t stop, we will beat them decisively… and then of course actually follow through’.

We don’t need people stationed in 150 countries to tame the wild animal… we just need to let it know in no uncertain terms that we will not stop until they are incapable of any further aggression… and they state so publicly and with much fanfare.

The left grumble and whine about US foreign policy but the fact is, they are the globalist democracy spreaders… they have created the vast majority of ‘foreign entanglements’ we now find ourselves in.


#55

If the United States can justify the use of nuclear weapons on civilian targets, then just remember, anybody can! And yes, there are people who justified it as your piece shows. But that was not a consensus opinion, as I show.

Even the official strategic bombing survey concluded shortly after World War II that the atomic bombs were unnecessary: ‘‘Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated.’’

United States intelligence had long predicted that when the Soviet Union entered the war (planned for early August 1945), Japan would collapse. President Truman’s ‘‘misplaced’’ diaries (discovered in 1978) record his agreement with this judgment. Stalin, he wrote on July 17, 1945, confirmed that ‘‘he’ll be in the Jap War on August 15th.’’ The President added, ‘‘Fini Japs when that comes about.’’


#56

General (and later president) Dwight Eisenhower – then Supreme Commander of all Allied Forces, and the officer who created most of America’s WWII military plans for Europe and Japan – said:

The Japanese were ready to surrender and it wasn’t necessary to hit them with that awful thing.
Newsweek, 11/11/63, Ike on Ike


#57

Of course one might ask, which part of japan would you have like to see partitioned and under soviet rule for 50 years?

20/20 hind sight puts lots of decisions in a much different light than when they were made. At the time a large majority of Americans were in support of the action… they of course had family in theater. Now in the US their is bearly a majority that sees it use and necessary or beneficial… Some people in Japan actual contemplate the turn of events had Russia actually injected themselves into the surrender process… Speculation is that it was the threat of Russias entry into the war that pushed Japan to surrender and not actual military capitulation to the US… we will never know.

In Tsuyoshi Hasegawa’s recently published “Racing the Enemy”
“The emperor and the peace party (within the government) hastened to end the war expecting that the Americans would deal with Japan more generously than the Soviets,” Hasegawa, a Russian-speaking American scholar, said in an interview.

While it is true that the US was the only one to use nuclear weapons we should not be 1) hesitant to use them again if necessary and 2) complacent about there use or dissemination by anyone else. The genie is out of the bottle, trying to keep it contained is the problem…

You often bring up countries that gave up their nuclear programs as reason for their fall… their fall would have occurred anyway; their sin was thinking about dumping fiat currency and movement to a gold backed one… totally against the global push for a fiat global currency controlled by people in far away places…


#58

Well we (IRAN) are sort of in compliance.


#59


The report by the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, a Washington-based think tank, was released just weeks after Pyongyang claimed to have carried out a successful test of a hydrogen bomb and international sanctions on Iran are being lifted under the Obama administration-backed nuclear accord with Tehran.


#60

A think tank…