Funny how this sort of thing didn’t happen before school integration…
For pretty much all of American history guns have been easy to come by. At one time you could order a submachine gun from a mail order catalog. I’m old enough to remember when pickup trucks had rifles mounted on the rear window, it was just nothing people gave any special notice to. People weren’t shooting up schools and churches though, that’s something that only really started in the late 80s or 90s.
This is not because of the availability of guns. It is because we are forcing millions of people to live in an unnatural world, combined with moral nihilism, and we’re just seeing spontaneous detonation in certain people.
There is no way in hell we should let them restrict firearms, not with the world we’re about to find ourselves in. They want White people reduced to defenselessness.
You are correct: people are collapsing under the stress of living in such a fucked-up society, We’re going to see more of this. Much more.
First the Scalise shooter, then the Vegas shooter, now this. The Bernie Bros really like their semi-automatic rifles and domestic terrorism.
These school shootings and the eventual gun control that is to come have one common root: demographics. People are going nuts from the diversity, and the newly-arrived diversity will inevitably vote for gun control. As always, the shitlibs are calling for confiscation and AR bans, and cuckservatives are calling for a more militarized society with armed guards at schools and whatever else.
Anybody have any cold hard proof or actual evidence that anyone actually died?
I saw that picture too. I don’t buy it. You can’t believe that a building full of Snapchatting assholes didn’t document every second of this if it was real. These kids never stop with the phone.
That’s true, and you’re right about gun confiscation. The American public is likely not far from calling for the “inevitable confiscation” you speak of.
Wouldnt be surprised at all.
Adopted at birth by a loving older couple, Nikolas Cruz seemed to struggle in recent years. His dad died when he was much younger and the 19-year-old’s mom died just 3 ½ months ago, neighbors, friends and family members said.
The portrait that emerged of the suspected gunman in the mass shooting was of a troubled former student at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School who was expelled for disciplinary problems.
Cruz was arrested without any serious incident at a nearby house very shortly after the shootings, which left 17 people dead and several more injured, Sheriff Scott Israel said.
The AR-15 used in the mass shooting was legally bought by Cruz, attorney Jim Lewis told the South Florida Sun Sentinel. Cruz already owned the gun when he moved in with his friend’s family in northwest Broward around Thanksgiving, Lewis said.
“It was his gun,” Lewis said. “The family made him keep it in a locked gun cabinet in the house but he had a key.”
The family did not see him shooting the AR-15 but did see him shooting pellet guns, Lewis said.
Cruz’s mother, Lynda Cruz, died Nov. 1. She was 68.
Family member Barbara Kumbatovich, of Long Island, N.Y., said she heard media reports about the mass shooting in Florida but had no idea the suspect was the son of her recently deceased sister-in-law, Lynda.
“Oh my God,” Kumbatovich said.
Lynda and her husband, Roger, who died many years ago, adopted Nikolas and his biological brother, Zachary, after the couple moved from Long Island to Broward County.
Kumbatovich said she met the boys only once, when they were very young and attended a family funeral in New York. Lynda was a stay-at-home mom and her late husband, who died when the boys were younger, had worked in advertising.
Lynda had always wanted to have children and the couple adopted later in life, Kumbatovich said: “I think it was just something she really wanted to do.”
The boys were left in the care of a family friend after their adoptive mom died Nov. 1, she said.
“I know she had been having some issues with them, especially the older one. He was being a problem. I know he did have some issues and he may have been taking medication. [He] did have some kind of emotional or difficulties,” Kumbatovich said. “[Lynda] kept a really close handle on both boys. They were not major issues, as far as I know, just things teenagers do like not coming home on time, maybe being disrespectful.”
Another relative, who spoke on condition of anonymity over the sensitive matter, said Nikolas had been diagnosed with autism.
Lynda, who died of pneumonia, adopted Nikolas the day he was born.
Nikolas’ father died from a heart attack, the relative said, and Lynda had sought counseling for Nikolas at a young age: “She did her best getting him any help he needed.”
After their mom died, Cruz and his brother lived with a family friend in Palm Beach County but Cruz wasn’t happy. He asked a friend, who he knew from his time at Stoneman Douglas, if he could move in with the friend’s family in northwest Broward, said Jim Lewis, an attorney speaking on behalf of that family. The lawyer would not identify the family.
The family let Cruz move in around Thanksgiving, gave him his own room and urged him to attend adult education classes, Lewis said. Cruz also got a job at a local dollar store, he said.
“The family is devastated, they didn’t see this coming. They took him in and it’s a classic case of no good deed goes unpunished,” Lewis said. “He was a little quirky and he was depressed about his mom’s death, but who wouldn’t be?”
The family were fully cooperating with investigators, he said. Detectives were getting a search warrant to look for evidence in Cruz’s room late Wednesday, Lewis said.
Another home, in the Lantana area, was also being searched late Wednesday.
Janine Kartiganer, who lives two doors down from Cruz’s former home, said Cruz looked “very troubled.”
“He wore a hoodie and always had his head down,” she said. “He looked depressed.”
Emily Sucher, 16, a junior who lives in Parkland, was in her TV Production class when an administrator announced over the intercom to evacuate the building.
She had seen the suspect, Cruz, around school last year and remembers him as an “off kid” who would “smile weirdly, make weird comments.”
Sen. Bill Nelson said on MSNBC that Cruz wore a gas mask and had smoke grenades. “He set off the fire alarm so the kids would come out into the hallways and thus he had the opportunity with a crowded hallway to start picking off people.”
Trevor Hart, 16, who knew Cruz in Spanish class at Marjory Stoneman, said they ate together once in a while in the cafeteria.
“It seemed like he didn’t really like school,” Hart said.
Cruz participated in Army ROTC at the high school. Cruz had “a bunch of weapons” and talked about shooting lizards, squirrels and frogs, Hart said.
Cruz seemed “a little off,” Hart said.
Shelby and Richie Speno moved on to the street where the Cruz family lived in 2005.
Shelby Speno said she’d been warned that Nikolas had caused trouble, such as biting a child and stealing neighbors’ mail. One time, he threw eggs at Richie’s car while he was driving.
“Lynda the mom was always apologetic. She had her hands full,” Shelby said.
“They were very much on their own. The kids seem to roam around and come and go as they pleased,” Richie Speno said.
Police were called out numerous times, and Shelby said Cruz was seen shooting at a neighbor’s chickens.
“I told my husband I was so glad they moved. I’m afraid he was the kind of kid who would do something crazy,” Shelby said. “The older he gets, the worse kind of trouble he got into.”
Jonathan Guimaraes, 17, said he and Cruz were in JROTC together: “He was normal. He didn’t have any issues.”
Cruz liked to go hunting a lot but Guimaraes said he thought Cruz only used non-lethal airsoft rifles.
Cruz was wearing a wine-colored ROTC polo shirt, black pants and black boots, when he was taken into custody. He was placed on a gurney and taken away in an ambulance. At 4:47 p.m., he was wheeled in to Broward Health North hospital in Deerfield Beach.
A short time later, he was brought to Broward Sheriff’s Office headquarters in a marked agency car that was part of a short convoy.
Handcuffed and wearing what looked like a light blue hospital gown, he was led into the building by deputies.
Math teacher James Gard said Cruz, a junior at the time, was in his class last year.
“He was a pretty quiet kid,” Gard said. “He was a very well-behaved kid in my class. He was never a behavioral problem in my class.”
Malcolm and Christine Roxburgh were neighbors of the Cruz family for many years.
“It was a wonderful idea. Two older people to have two little boys to look after. They were just kind people.”
Christine said Lynda asked her daughter, who lives up north, to take the kids when her husband died, but she refused.
He used to get into trouble and harass neighbors, the Roxburghs said. The police came to Cruz’s house many times, they said
A neighbor across the street kept little pigs as pets.
“He didn’t like the pigs and didn’t like the neighbors so he sent over his dog over there to try to attack them,” Malcolm said.
Christine said one time she saw Nikolas peeking in her window.
“I said what are you doing here? He said he was looking for golf balls. I said ‘this isn’t the golf course,’” Christine said.
One time he stole a neighbor spotted Nikolas trying to steal a bike from the garage when the door was open.
Christine said when the boy didn’t want to go to school, he would bang his head against a cement wall.
When their daughter was driving to work, Nikolas “slammed his book bag into the side of her car. She got out and said don’t you ever do that again.”
“He could have killed any of us,” Christine said.
So a conspiracy amongst students, teachers, first responders, all the hospital staff, the court system, Florida’s politicians…
Come get them scum bag.
It’s not my business as a foreigner to tell my American brothers and sisters how to run their country, but maybe they can take a little advice.
This bit I thought was funny… Not long ago you were admonished for being from the US and no doubt some will make that same charge today because you buck up against the very gun control lobby that has left law abiding British citizens defenseless with their only option of calling ’ 999 ’ and hoping they are still alive when the cops arrive.
What is funny about this is that some years ago Pierce Morgan took over for Larry King and the left couldn’t get enough of him railing against guns and the right to have them… He of course was on Twitter already… you could imagine more supportive tweets for his attack on Trump over gun control…
No matter what I do, someone’s going to be mad. Might as well enjoy it.
That apparently is Trumps motto…
Ex-GOP rep urges voters to ‘flip the House’ if they want results on gun control: ‘Republicans will never do anything’
One smart Republican
Former GOP Rep. David Jolly, who represented Florida’s 13th congressional district, tore into his own party on Thursday over its historic reaction to mass shootings, telling CNN’s Don Lemon “Republicans will never do anything on gun control.”
“We have a broken nation on the issue of guns,” Jolly said. “Let’s be brutally honest about what we do know. I say this as a Republican: Republicans will never do anything on gun control.”
Jolly noted last year “you had Republican members of Congress shot and nearly killed after a softball practice”–and the party still did nothing.
“The idea of gun policy in the Republican party is to try to get the speaking slot at the NRA and prove that constituency that you’re further right,” Jolly said.
“If this is the issue that defines your ideology as a voter, there’s two things that I suggest tonight,” Jolly continued. “First, flip the house. Flip the house. Republicans are not going to do a single thing after this shooting today.”
Jolly also said Democrats can “work for incremental wins,” including universal background checks.
“Democrats should go to the law enforcement community and say, ‘We’re going to leave the Republicans behind and let’s work on this together right now and get the will of the American people to be enacted in the United States Congress,’” Jolly offered.