President Trump has decided to end the 2012 deportation amnesty for young adult illegal immigrants, Fox News reported Thursday, citing a senior administration official


#61

Check out my fake news


#62

Every nation has not only a right but a duty to put its own people first. America is a nation, not a charity organization.

Want to feel generous? Donate or volunteer. Inflicting crime on your countrymen so you can feel “nice” is treason.


#63

President Trump has said he “loves” the “dreamers”. He leaves the impression he’s full of compassion for the plight of dreamers. But… Does he really care about THEM or the political blowback which may come from deporting dreamers?

In effect, Trump has dumped dreamers into the lap of Congress, as the political hot potato they are, knowing Congress has a LOT on its plate now with short time to get much of it done and could not pass legislation for dreamers within 6 months, even if Congress wanted to drop EVERYTHING and focus on immigration reform or at least DACA. In 6 to 9 months, when ICE begins to round up dreamers for deportation as tears are shed, Trump will say something a-kin to “I feel your pain but I tried to get Congress to help; it’s not my fault!”

Trump will also be able to say, of course, “I kept my promise” to those who were expecting Trump to aggressively deport illegal immigrants, including dreamers. Members of Congress will point out there was not enough consensus to deal with the issue of immigration reform, as has been the case for decades. They’d also note that something this controversial is untouchable in the runup to 2018 mid-term election campaigns. DACA, they would point out, is a minefield of legal complications Congress would need a lot of time to navigate then reconcile. In the end, everyone will have their explanations for why something could not be done as the tears flow. And the dreamers, more than anyone and despite their tears, will come out of this in the worst way.


#64

Our legislature is full of eunichs right now. It didn’t have the balls to end DACA, even though it was an illegal program - and clearly intended to pump up Dem voting numbers with illegal immigrants.

So Trump had to do it.

But with a little time-delay.

Now the legislature HAS to do something if it loves those “Dreamers” so much. It’s up to THEM to produce a fix or compromise or whatever.

And they’ll fail.

We need a lot more Trumps (preferably with less of a Twitter addiction). American can’t be “great” if its govt is composed of spineless do-nothing wimps.


#65

A catch 22 deport them and a segment of the population would be unhappy. Don’t deport them and a segment of the population would be unhappy.

A side note there are between 11 and 40 million illegals in the US, think they would just go after 800K targeted individuals? Would the impact just be they couldn’t;t work legally in the US as if that mattered to anyone.


#66

What a surprise

Many news organizations unleashed their best adjectives and went for the drama of DACA — the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program — which was rescinded by the White House on Tuesday. Typical coverage put an emphasis on justice, struggle, resistance, shock, sadness, worry and the political “backlash” against the decision. But this type of journalism has been going on for a while.
“Even before Tuesday’s announcement, the liberal media have been alarmist in their attacks on any proposed rollback of DACA,” points out Geoffrey Dickens, deputy research director of the Media Research Center — who cited multiple examples of DACA coverage that pushed agenda and handwringing over facts.
“This follows the exact blueprint the media used in 2012 and 2014. They did all they could do to lay the groundwork for President Barack Obama’s DACA announcements by filling their stories with unbalanced talking heads and sob stories of those who could be deported,” Mr. Dickens explained in his analysis, which examined five years’ worth of DACA coverage on NBC, CNN, PBS and other broadcast sources.
Meanwhile, White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders faced a gaggle of journalists fixated on DACA; she took 36 questions on the subject Tuesday afternoon — but only two questions on the North Korean threat, and a single query about humanitarian matters in Myanmar. Mrs. Sanders fended off theoretical questions, emphasized the “orderly process” that was underway and fully addressed the dramatic underpinnings among press and pundits.
“There are a lot of people that I’ve seen attacking President Trump for not showing the level of compassion that they feel he should have. To me, the most heartless thing that I’ve seen all day today is that Democrats, like Nancy Pelosi, are using this decision for fundraising, while the president is trying to fix this situation. They are politicizing an issue instead of actually doing their job. If they would spend less time fundraising and more time focusing on solutions, we wouldn’t even be in this problem in the first place. It’s not coldhearted for the president to uphold the law,” Mrs. Sanders told the journalists.
WELL, OF COURSE: MEDIA WILL ‘BLAME TRUMP’
The eager press is always looking for ways to craft yet another hostile narrative about President Trump. Here comes the next springboard for their efforts.
“A large crop of House members are likely to retire in the coming months, not necessarily because President Trump is polarizing, the parties are divided, or Capitol Hill is ‘dysfunctional’ — but because 40 years of history tell us it’s going to happen,” writes Nathan Gonzales, an elections analyst for Roll Call.
He cited previous trends — noting that since 1976, 22 House members, on average, retired each election cycle without seeking another office. This time around, five lawmakers have called it quits: Republican Reps. John J. Duncan Jr., Lynn Jenkins, Sam Johnson and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, plus Rep. Niki Tsongas, a Democrat.
“A full 17 members could announce their decision to walk away from Congress and elected office and the cycle could be described as an average occurrence. Of course, that’s not the narrative that’s likely to build,” says Mr. Gonzales. “If a batch of members announce their retirement, particularly Republicans, much of the media will almost certainly blame Trump, or the infighting within the GOP. Of course, retirement decisions aren’t made in a vacuum and it’s tough to isolate individual circumstances. But the historical context will likely be lost and the psychological impact of one of their colleagues being shot and nearly killed in broad daylight can’t be dismissed.”
Mr. Gonzales refers to the grave wounding of House Majority Whip Steve Scalise by a shooter who opened fire on a congressional baseball game practice in June.
NEWS FROM THE GOLDEN STATE
“At least 220 languages are spoken in California, and 44 percent of residents speak a language other than English at home. Seven million Californians say they cannot speak English well,” writes Los Angeles Times legal affairs writer Maura Dolano, who notes that the Golden State now can’t find enough interpreters for the state’s 8 million annual court cases.
The 2,000 qualified court interpreters are simply not enough to cover the language needs, which include Spanish, Vietnamese, Korean, American Sign, Mandarin, Farsi, Cantonese, Russian, Tagalog, Arabic, Punjabi, Cambodian, Khmer, Japanese, Malayalam, Hmong, Mixteco, Lao and Aleutian Islands dialects.
NORTH DAKOTA CALLS
President Trump visits North Dakota on Wednesday, arriving in Bismarck, located some 1,317 miles west of the nation’s capital. The president will talk of tax reform and other matters at a sprawling oil refinery that employs 250 and processes some 74,000 barrels a day.
“This tax relief is really about small business, it’s about farmers, ranchers, energy, it’s about really helping our economy grow and helping us compete globally,” Sen. John Hoeven, North Dakota Republican, told The Bismarck Tribune.
Affection for Mr. Trump is still robust in North Dakota, prompting much of the press to declare that Mr. Trump currently is seeking refuge on “friendly turf” — and so forth and so on.
It is friendly turf. And the cordial feelings continue. Mr. Trump won 63 percent of the votes in North Dakota during the 2016 election, compared to Hillary Clinton’s 27 percent. The president’s approval rating in the state now stands at 59 percent, eclipsed only by West Virginia with 60 percent, according to a Gallup tracking poll conducted during the first six months of the year. South Dakota is in third place with 57 percent, followed by Montana and Wyoming, both with 56 percent.
POLL DU JOUR
•55 percent of Americans favor DACA; 43 percent of Republicans, 34 percent of Donald Trump voters, 53 percent of independents, 70 percent of Democrats and 81 percent of Hillary Clinton voters agree.
•27 percent overall oppose the policy; 40 percent of Republicans, 50 percent of Trump voters, 28 percent of independents, 13 percent of Democrats and 7 percent of Clinton voters agree.
•48 percent of Americans overall say the White House should preserve the DACA program; 30 percent of Republicans, 22 percent of Donald Trump voters, 43 percent of independents, 73 percent of Democrats and 81 percent of Clinton voters agree.
•29 percent overall say the program should be ended; 49 percent of Republicans, 57 percent of Trump voters, 29 percent of independents, 12 percent of Democrats and 7 percent of Clinton voters agree.


#67

By me Trump has shown his real motivation for what has become a political stunt. This is much like the campaign promise to repeal the ACA and then later the rhetoric turned to ‘Repeal and Replace’. He showed his contempt for a straight repeal by admonishing the Freedom Caucus rather than the House and Senate leadership… His goal all along had federal fingerprints all over it. He might have pushed the costs down to the states, but control would remain in Washington.

The repeal of DACA is exactly the same. He isn’t forcing congress to act in any decisive manner and he showed that by putting an extension on the end of his executive order canceling it. Last night he tweeted that if congress could not legalize DACA within the 6 months, he would revisit the issue.

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Beyond being incredibly stupid as a negotiation give away for things like the border wall and stricter enforcement, by me, he showed that he would, without condition, insure amnesty for Dreamers… and it sounded that way by the 2nd month he was in office…


#68

All of the Republican Senators who composed the R part of the “Gang of Eight” who crafted an immigration bill in 2013, which passed the Senate overwhelmingly, are still in the Senate.

The bill was not taken to the floor of House by Boehner due to the serial child molester’s made up “rule”.

Perhaps one of the R Senators (because McConnell) - lets say, McCain, who was promoting comprehensive immigration reform today - could simply reintroduce that bill and send it to Ryan.

Seems like with the clock ticking, revoting on legislation that is already written and proven popular would be a good idea.


#69

Sorry - The ‘gang of eight’ are out of step with the American people on this issue. They work for their monies donors and for some the prospect of an expanded electoral base. The enforcement provisions are really nonexistent platitudes which have no real verification or penalties for employers both big and small, sets no real boundaries on future immigration and of course take the issue of DACA that directly effects some 2 million max and turns it into an 11+ million amnesty program. As in 1986, those who strive to destroy US national sovereignty and erode any form of US cultural norms would, gut the enforcement provisions and 30 years down the road… No, actually if we have a repeat of the way the 1986 amnesty played out, their would be no other attempt or indeed need for another attempt to control our own borders…

Proven popular to who?


#70

Just in, a new home for dreamers:
Cher says she’s ready to provide “sanctuary” after the Trump administration announced the decision to end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program that protects roughly 800,000 young immigrants who came to the U.S. as children. The singer tweeted that she will protect young “Dreamers” and let them stay at her home.

Must be a BIG place.

Or could this just be political theater??


#71

Sounds like another one of those… “If Trump Wins… I’m going to Canada !”

However if Cher is actually broadcasting this from her new place in space… she just might have the room… but she’s gonna need a bigger rocket…


#72

Wonder why she didn’t offer her home up for Texas hurricane victims??


#73

Houston Space center was underwater… whatcha gonna do…


#74

Launch from NK of course.


#75

If the DACA people actually get deported, I’d be surprised. The US has already paid to educate these people, they’ve been vetted and demonstrated as productive members of the US. Of course, a country needs to be control their border. If anyone who is in the US illegally should be given a quick path to citizenship, it is the DACA people, it just makes economic sense for the US. In theory, Congress now has 6 months to pass immigration reform that covers the DACA people in a way that is more reasonable for both those DACA people and US citizens.


#76

Nothing the left says about illegals is right. They bullshit about how much they add to the economy, or about “dreams” and how we should be “compassionate”, but it all boils down to one thing: the illegals are almost entirely non-whites who support Democrats. That’s all it is. There is nothing else to left-wing support for illegals beyond that. Wake up.


#77

I don’t care what the left says. I stated my opinion.

During the time the DACA kids have been here they have been educated here, got jobs here, and have clean records. So, throwing them out serves what purpose at this point?


#78

To the contrary, not throwing them out is justified by nothing more than utilitarianism.


#79

I like utility.

What is the purpose of an immigration system, if not to maximize utility for the country creating and operating the system.


#80

Well that’s the issue, isn’t it? What is the purpose, if it’s not to maximize utility? Too much of modern politics is dominated by this type of ethic because it’s a very simple way of getting to people’s hearts quickly.