Should Marijuana Be Legal?


#61

Denver, Boulder, Ft. Collins, Greeley all sanctuary cities as well as smaller areas and a few counties.

Government has 1 purpose to consume.


#62

If the GOP wanted to destroy the Democrats forever, they only need to decriminalize marijuana. They don’t even have to legalize it.

Recreational drugs are the #1 common binding issue that brings blue collar working stiffs and progressive hippies together to vote Democrat.

It would be smart to neutralize that issue. No one cares about weed any more.


#63

Like alcohol, people are fired for pot us as it should be.

Don’t acre what people do however as part of the employment contract the employees cannot smoke POT. Imagine a person that has consumed pot on the last 24 hours working on 14.4, 28.8 KVA lines.

Crispy critter.


#64

I think that is only fair. The same applies to getting behind the wheel. I wouldn’t show up to work drunk and my employer does random drug tests.


#65

Problem with POT is it stays in your system (blood test) far longer than alcohol.


#66

I’m in the camp of not speaking from personal experience, but legalize and regulate seems reasonable in a free society. Focus on safe levels and safe age, enforce hard against the black market to cut out the cartels. I always figured the US’s already massive exposure to pot is why our math scores stink, but not doing advanced math seems much safer than drunk driving or lung cancer.


#67

Yes it’s especially nice when people grow their own.

If they legalize it in your area, be prepared to love the smell of the skunk when they vent the grow area.

Our math scores stink because our public school system has lost it’s focus. As an engineer I taught my daughter math through HS. She aced Calculus, Analytical Geometry, and loved Statistics in college and is majoring in IT programming.

We have legalized POT and When I worked for the local utility I terminated on average 1 person a week and faced numerous wrongful termination suits as POT is legal. Yet not 1 of those people would sign off documentation relieving the company of all responsibility for injury up to and including death.

I now have my own business and no longer have to deal with stupid people who think POT isn’t a problem.

p.s. You’ll love it when the children get ahold of it and take it to school. No amount of laws cures stupidity.


#68

While it’s great for non-users to come here and talk about the dangers and lack of dangers of pot, I want to point out that the opinions of non-users are just that.

You aren’t going to get many opinions of people who really know here, unless they live in a legal state and have no job risks associated with talking about it. It is still illegal. No one is going to come out here and tell you they have been using for 35 years and have gone to work every day stoned or anything like that, because there is a lot of risk. But I guarantee you there are plenty of stories like that.

I have smelt pot on the breath of my co-workers, and if it hadn’t been for the fact that we were close enough that I could smell it, I would have never known. It doesn’t make people stupid or slur their words or anything like that. Knowing the people that I know that are users, I say all the talk about the dangers is not well informed.


#69

And I live in Colorado. I live the dream and when contracting with utilities I throw their employees off the job if I suspect they have ben using pot. The report back to their office and are immediately drug tested and found using which I’m 100% correct to date, they are given 90 days off and are random tested. If they test positive they are immediately terminated.

And I would love for your friends that are users to come out sign a waiver and work of 28.8 or 14.4KVA primary. Tends to clean up the gene pool.

p.s. I guarantee that no one uses for 35 years working for a utility and pass the random tests.


#70

American voters widely backed loosening marijuana laws across the country on Tuesday, permitting recreational use on both coasts, and dramatically expanding the number of people who can use pot as medicine or just for fun.

“This is the most important moment in the history of the marijuana legalization movement,” said Tom Angell, a spokesman for the pro-legalization Marijuana Majority.

California, Massachusetts, Maine and Nevada voters approved recreational legalization. Arizona voters appeared to have rejected recreational legalization.

On the medical side, Florida, Arkansas, and North Dakota all voted in favor of medical cannabis, and Montana appeared likely to also approve it.

If those results hold, 29 states will now permit cannabis use for certain medical conditions, including cancer and HIV, and eight will permit recreational use, as does the District of Columbia.

“Most voters do not think otherwise law-abiding citizens should be criminalized for using a product that is much safer than alcohol," said Rob Kampia, the executive director of the pro-legalization Marijuana Policy Project. "There is a general consensus that law enforcement should be fighting serious crimes rather than enforcing failed and deeply unpopular policies.”

Legalization skeptics said they were “disappointed” in the results and planned to keep pushing for restrictions aimed at keeping pot out of the hands of kids.

The strong wins across the country on Tuesday will increase pressure on Congress to reconsider how the federal government treats this Schedule 1 illegal drug, including access to banking, legal pot advocates say.

In a statement, the co-founder of the country’s largest medical marijuana dispensary, Harborside, called the California vote a much-needed reset of laws that have disproportionally hurt minorities. The California law gives people convicted of marijuana crimes a chance to get their sentences reduced, and potentially remove such convictions from their records.

“For all Californians, it’s progress toward a more tolerant, inclusive and equitable way of life; and for prisoners of cannabis in other states and all around the globe, it’s a promise that change is coming,” Harborside’s Steve DeAngelo said. “I started working for legalization in 1974. It feels like I ran a 42-year marathon and won the race.”

Legalization advocates credit Colorado and Washington, the first two states to permit recreational marijuana sales, with helping lay the groundwork for what they expected to be a series of victories across the country. Nevada and California expect to use their positions as tourism destinations to direct a flow of marijuana taxes into state coffers. California alone is expected to have a marijuana marketplace worth $7.6 billion by 2020, according to prediction by industry analysists New Frontier Data and ArcView Market Research.

Elsewhere across the country, voters also decided whether to mandate higher minimum wages and require performers in California’s pornography industry to use condoms.

Ballot initiatives can give citizens the ability to bypass their elected officials and instead make their case directly to voters, or they can be placed on the ballot by lawmakers seeking to amend the state constitution. In many cases, they permit voters to directly set specific policy when lawmakers can’t, or won’t, act.


#71

Trump does not have to legalize marijuana during his presidency, but he can help to remove the ranking of Marijuana from the DEA classification as a Schedule 1 narcotic. That classification is just way too extreme.

I am not advocating to have a country full of weed heads, but enough is enough already. Now, if it were to be de-criminalized and the states decided to make it legal then appropriate tax structures could be put in place at the state level to fund infrastructure improvement projects or education once common core is repealed.

At the end of the day if someone wants to smoke a joint after work in their own home. Who cares.

Schedule I

Schedule I drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse. Some examples of Schedule I drugs are:

heroin, lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), marijuana (cannabis), 3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine (ecstasy), methaqualone, and peyote

Schedule II

Schedule II drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a high potential for abuse, with use potentially leading to severe psychological or physical dependence. These drugs are also considered dangerous. Some examples of Schedule II drugs are:

Combination products with less than 15 milligrams of hydrocodone per dosage unit (Vicodin), cocaine, methamphetamine, methadone, hydromorphone (Dilaudid), meperidine (Demerol), oxycodone (OxyContin), fentanyl, Dexedrine, Adderall, and Ritalin

Schedule III

Schedule III drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a moderate to low potential for physical and psychological dependence. Schedule III drugs abuse potential is less than Schedule I and Schedule II drugs but more than Schedule IV. Some examples of Schedule III drugs are:

Products containing less than 90 milligrams of codeine per dosage unit (Tylenol with codeine), ketamine, anabolic steroids, testosterone

Schedule IV

Schedule IV drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with a low potential for abuse and low risk of dependence. Some examples of Schedule IV drugs are:

Xanax, Soma, Darvon, Darvocet, Valium, Ativan, Talwin, Ambien, Tramadol

Schedule V

Schedule V drugs, substances, or chemicals are defined as drugs with lower potential for abuse than Schedule IV and consist of preparations containing limited quantities of certain narcotics. Schedule V drugs are generally used for antidiarrheal, antitussive, and analgesic purposes. Some examples of Schedule V drugs are:

cough preparations with less than 200 milligrams of codeine or per 100 milliliters (Robitussin AC), Lomotil, Motofen, Lyrica, Parepectolin

https://www.dea.gov/druginfo/ds.shtml


#72

I agree the Schedule I classification is utter madness. Marijuana should have never been in the same category as heroin, LSD, or crystal meth. The whole point of Schedule I is that the drug in question has no medicinal value, which is just factually incorrect in the case of marijuana.


#73

This is of course the fallacy that drives the anti-legalization movement. Countries in Europe that have decriminalized pot and indeed in Uruguay found an uptick in usage when the laws were passed. Like kids with a new toy, people who were curious but would not cross the law experimented… After a period of time most learned to imbibe responsibly. Certain professions took precautions because the effects of pot can linger longer than alcohol but by and large… society adjusted and contrary to the myth, pot is no more a ‘gateway’ drug than alcohol. It is most certainly to reevaluate our whole attitude to victim-less crime… But it is also true that people need to suffer the full force of the consequences of their own actions… Liberty does have its responsibility.


#74

Sessions won’t go after Hillary but has no problem violating the State’s rights under the 10th Amendment. Sessions stated “good people don’t smoke pot.” No Jeff, good people don’t let traitors walk free. Fire this Fucktard already.


#75

Sessions is a quisling, a flunkie, a stooge, a bought servant of the NWO.


#76

Don’t fire Sessions! His replacement (assuming the firing happens) will be a Deep State shill that only make things worse. He’s not perfect, but he’s the best of what President Trump’s administration’s got.


#77

Ok, that’s it, FIRE HIS ASS, I won’t be upset.

Marijuana laws are archaic, ruin the lives of people, cause those with convictions to be unemployable, and gives the police state more power and money to enforce it. Oh, and lawyers love the business.

Ugh! Bigger fish to fry dude!


#78

Disagree. Sorry but Sessions has been a huge disappointment.

  1. Going after marijuana instead of meth and heroin really damaged this administration. Remember Trumps talk about heroin in NH? Instead Sessions is wasting his time on weed.

  2. The Civil Forfeiture thing was also stupid.


#79

I don’t disagree with most of the sentiment presented thus far but Sessions was put as the head of the DOJ to ‘enforce the law’. Unfortunately congress, those we elected to write laws, have passed laws that some don’t necessarily agree with. This is not the problem of a properly functioning Justice Department. It seems that we just want ‘our guy’ to enforce the laws we agree with, rather than doing our jobs and electing people who will advocate for our positions. Interestingly we seem to be bashing Sessions for the very same things Obama did, just on opposite issues… The law is the law… don’t like it, put pressure on the people who make the law.

With respect to the 10th amendment, I would suggest that we currently have no aspect of federal government that is not above states rights. I hold both the left and the right responsible for this problem. We can see this playing out with Obamacare… All democrats want maximum federal involvement in health care as do some Republicans. The constant chant of compromise when the actual question is… Does the Federal government actually have a right to put itself in the health care business, Yes or No. Instead we always get compromise everything.

So, I think Jeff Sessions should stay. He is a by the books kind of guy. If we do not like a federal law or do not like the fact that the federal government has its nose in an issue at all, is something we as citizens need to take up with our elected officials… and it is something we should demand of them when they hold hearings to confirm a judge or justice…


#80

WEAVERVILLE, Calif. (Reuters) - Pollution from illegal marijuana farms deep in California’s national forests is far worse than previously thought, and has turned thousands of acres into waste dumps so toxic that simply touching plants has landed law enforcement officers in the hospital.

The volume of banned or restricted pesticides and illegally applied fertilizers in the woods dwarfs estimates by the U.S. Forest Service in 2014, when a top enforcement official testified that the pollution was threatening forest land in California and other states.

California accounts for more than 90 percent of illegal U.S. marijuana farming, with much of it exported to other states from thousands of sites hidden deep inside forested federal land, and more on private property, law enforcement officials said. The state is still developing a licensing system for growers even though legal retail sales of the drug will begin next year, and medical use has been allowed for decades.

Ecologist Mourad Gabriel, who documents the issue for the Forest Service as well as other state, local and federal law enforcement agencies, estimates California’s forests hold 41 times more solid fertilizers and 80 times more liquid pesticides than Forest Service investigators found in 2013.

Growers use fertilizers and pesticides long restricted or banned in the United States, including carbofuran and zinc phosphide. In previous years, it was commonly sold fertilizers and pesticides that were used illegally, law enforcement officials said.

Exposure to the pesticides has sent at least five law enforcement officials and two suspects to hospitals with skin rashes, respiratory problems and other symptoms, court documents and state data show.

Use of any chemicals in national forests is against federal law, as pesticides have killed sensitive species and fertilizers can cause algae blooms and bacteria problems in rivers and streams.

According to unpublished data seen by Reuters, Gabriel, who has visited more than 100 sites in California and is widely considered the top expert on toxics at marijuana farms, calculated that federal land in California contains 731,000 pounds of solid fertilizer, 491,000 ounces of concentrated liquid fertilizer and 200,000 ounces of toxic pesticides.

If much of the pesticide and fertilizer were released into a single stream rather than scattered around the state in leaky containers, the volume would exceed the amount of chemicals spilled in 2014 into the Elk River in West Virginia, which left 300,000 residents without access to potable water.

“We’re getting contamination over and over again at those locations,” said Gabriel, as toxins move from unsafe containers into the soil and water.

At sites that state officials said they had cleaned up completely, his team found 30-50 percent of the chemicals were still there.

“They are like superfund sites,” said Assistant U.S. Attorney Karen Escobar, whose Fresno office has filed numerous marijuana-related environmental damage cases. Superfund sites are those targeted by the U.S. government for hazardous waste cleanup because of the risk to human health or the environment.

Federal prosecutors have also charged pot growers with environmental crimes in Alaska, Oregon and Washington.

The most toxic sites cost as much as $100,000 to clean up, leaving taxpayers with a bill that could reach $100 million or more in California alone.

“These places aren’t safe to go into,” said state Assemblyman Jim Wood, who has pushed for cleanup funding.

Use of toxics has grown over the past three to four years, and chemicals have been found at sites in Oregon and Washington as well, said Chris Boehm, the Forest Service’s assistant director for enforcement and investigation. “In the last couple years we’ve lost a lot of the ground we had picked up in eradicating and cleaning up the new sites we find.”

The expense and danger of cleanup has created a backlog of 639 illegal marijuana farms awaiting restoration in California, according to U.S. Forest Service data compiled for Reuters. Each farm covers up to 50 acres.

Gabriel said that figure understated the problem, and pointed out that toxics are used at thousands of illegal farms on private and tribal land. After a year or two, growers often abandon sites, leaving containers of chemicals so toxic a quarter-teaspoon could kill a bear.