The Gang of Six's laughable proposal. No wonder Durban lied about Trump


#81

In the context of criticism of American policy, not talking about domestic or foreign persons.


#82

It’s not the message or the messenger. It’s the method.


#83

The method is working Black and Latino unemployment is at an all time low . Manufacturing is moving to America markets are setting new highs almost daily the nation will see a tax cut and Obama’s mandate is history .


#84

Pipe dream. First of all the TIC needs to put his money where his mouth is and secondly, China-Mart isn’t going anywhere.


#85

The consequences of ill gotten gains

You need to get over it and join reality


#86

I found this take interesting. If you think about it DACA is a created equal to the civil rights movement of the 1950-60’s. The left weren’t to keen to let republicans pass any civil rights legislation in the late 1950’s… it was much more politically expedient to call the right racists and then pass it along with their new version of plessy in the 1964 civil rights act. The left just do not want Republicans to be known as the party that solved this problem and of course they do not want border controls that would compromise their future as a party… voters in the US are finding them less appealing all the time…


#87

Excellent diversion and of course an irrelevant comment off topic


#88

DACA is an executive order which mysteriously is considered law


#89

Fiat Chrysler Automobiles NV said Thursday it would invest $1 billion to move production of profitable trucks from Mexico to Michigan, a move that will significantly lower the auto maker’s exposure to potential changes to the North American Free Trade Agreement.

Fiat Chrysler moves Heavy Duty Ram production to Warren amid $1B investment


#90

Activists worry Democrats are giving up their best chance on DACA

Then there’s this:

Democrats Fold on a DACA Fix
Why Chuck Schumer declined to gamble on a government shutdown.
By Jim Newell

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer arrive for a news conference in the Capitol on Dec. 13 in Washington.

When 18 Senate Democrats joined Republicans to pass a short-term spending bill on Thursday, it marked yet another day of disappointment for Dreamers and their allies in Congress.

Earlier on Thursday afternoon, a dozen members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus had marched across the Capitol to Sen. Chuck Schumer’s office, asked his receptionist for a meeting, and soon found themselves in a room with the minority leader. The topic was finding a fix for DACA recipients before adjourning for the year—a pledge Democrats made to the so-called Dreamers in September, after President Trump announced plans to end the program that shields children of undocumented immigrants from deportation.

“We were clear,” Illinois Rep. Luis Gutiérrez, perhaps the most outspoken advocate for Dreamers in Congress, said after the meeting. “You cannot put [Dreamers], Mr. Schumer, on a pedestal, take them to the Democratic convention, and then not give them the same kind of legislative importance moving forward.”

The Hispanic Caucus, Dreamers, activists, and progressives are furious that another must-pass spending bill will move through Congress without a DACA fix attached.

There was no fix in the September short-term spending bill, there wasn’t one in the two-week spending bill that passed on Dec. 8, and there isn’t one in the four-week spending bill that the House introduced Thursday before government funding was set to expire on Friday night. Democratic leaders say they used “end of the year” as shorthand for when the full, long-term appropriations bill would pass and did not anticipate that there would be another short-term bill kicking the process into January. But they now have to live by their miscalculation. A DACA fix will not come out of Congress by the end of the year.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi has stood her ground, whipping her conference to vote against the bill if the DREAM Act and other priorities weren’t included in the bill. Pelosi herself, along with Hispanic Caucus chairwoman Rep. Michelle Lujan Grisham, testified before the House Rules Committee on Thursday morning, urging the committee to amend the spending bill to include the DREAM Act. It did not. The bill passed the House on Thursday afternoon, 231 to 188. Though 14 Democrats eventually voted for it, they withheld their votes until it was clear Republicans could reach a majority without their help.

In the Senate, though, Schumer has not whipped his conference to block a spending bill that doesn’t contain a DACA fix.

Schumer, in floor remarks Thursday morning, said that a full reauthorization of the Children’s Health Insurance Program, community health centers, and the solution for Dreamers would all have to be solved together—“even if that means passing a clean, short-term CR extension of government funding with some anomalies … and continuing the negotiations into January.” In other words: He wouldn’t press for a DACA fix at this particular leverage point.

Though a DACA fix is popular, forcing a shutdown on the issue would be risky for Democrats. “Most people want DACA replaced,” as FiveThirtyEight wrote recently. “But for a lot of people, it’s not enough of a priority to shut down the government.”

Democrats are divided over whether they could successfully blame Republicans—who control both houses of Congress—for a shutdown. Arizona Rep. Raúl Grijalva, asked after the meeting with Schumer about the Senate leader’s rationale, said it was “the same one you hear from some about Democrats not being responsible for a shutdown.”

“But I don’t think we would be responsible,” he added.

Schumer seems unwilling to gamble with the fortunes of the two-dozen Democratic senators who are up for election in 2018. Democrats running in red states, specifically, have signaled this week that they’re not interested in risking a shutdown. Virginia Sen. Tim Kaine, who is up for re-election in a state that’s not so red anymore but is home to many, many government employees, also deprioritized shutting down the government over the issue.

“I will exercise every bit of leverage I can for the Dream Act,” Kaine told the Washington Post earlier this week, “but if there is a vote that would lead to a shutdown, that’s where I draw the line.”

It’s hard to overstate how infuriating such remarks—I will use all the leverage I have, except for the big piece of leverage that I have—are to Dreamers and their allies, who have come to D.C. for countless protests and rallies, shut down Capitol cafeterias, and are now being told, for a third time, to wait a little while longer.

“They told us Dec. 8, then Dec. 22, and now they tell us to wait until January,” Paul Quiñonez, a DACA recipient from Seattle with Washington Dream Coalition and United We Dream, told me in the Capitol on Monday. He was with a group who had just spoken with the congresswoman representing most of Seattle, Rep. Pramila Jayapal, off of the House floor.

“To expect us to go home and be able to celebrate Christmas in this environment, when they’re happy to be able to go home with their families, and we have to be living in fear, is unacceptable,” Quiñonez continued. He laid most of the blame on the Senate.

“What this vote means realistically is that they’re funding our deportations,” he said.

Democratic leaders insist they have a strategy to pass a DACA fix in January. Defense hawks—and the Defense Department—have been furious with these stopgap bills and won’t be expected to go along with them much longer. (Indeed, it took an awful lot of effort from House Republicans’ whip team this week to get enough defense hawks to go along with this CR.) They want a long-promised boost in defense spending that would come with the long-term appropriations bill. As one Democratic member told Politico, this means the dynamic will soon reach an “inflection point.” If House Republican leaders can’t muster 217 votes from within their own conference for another stopgap, that’s when Democrats feel they can successfully force a resolution for Dreamers. It helps, too, that another debt ceiling hike—which will require Democratic votes—will also need to be passed early in the year.


#91

The center may be a fine compromise, but I’m doubtful that they’ll find Trump there, and if they do, his base will be spitting mad.


#92

This isn’t anything new, been trending for some time. But if you remove regulations, slash the EPA and bring back dirty manufacturing, watch for the rivers and Great Lakes to be killed again. Have you ever seen what manufacturing is doing to Chinese cities. Some of them look like it’s night time during the day. Like American cities back in the 60’s.

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/the-press-office/2012/05/08/fact-sheet-update-bringing-jobs-back-united-states

Fact Sheet: An Update on Bringing Jobs Back to the United States

On January 11, 2012, President Obama hosted the White House Insourcing Forum, where he called on companies to invest in America and heard from companies already bringing jobs back and making additional investments in America. Those companies at the Forum – large and small, foreign and domestic, manufacturers and services firms – all chose to invest and create new jobs here, citing that rising cost abroad combined with the continued productivity improvements by American workers, our world-leading universities, and a strong business environment make the U.S. an increasingly attractive location for investment and jobs.


#93

No hurry from my standpoint they either work with the administration reach a compromise or in march DACA will no longer to be a issue !


#94

I must have missed all of those announcement of companies actually committing to a move… blah blah blah… besides if you increase regulations , make the epa so restrictive that people can do nothing without violating the law and kill industries in the name of environmentalism… do your really think that ALL OF THOSE COMPANIES that ‘Obama’ touted would actually make the move? Do you really?.. I didn’t think so.


#95

A plan that includes chain migration were they would be allowed to bring half of Mexico with them . :wink::laughing: So many RINO’s coming out the closet these days !!! :laughing::laughing:


#96

They tried that. Graham wants the Tuesday Trump back.


#97

Graham like everyone else knows about wishing in one hand and crapping in the other .


#98

In case you didn’t notice, he’s not a GOP’er or a conservative.