Trump Moves US Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem


The sub-headline reads: “The decision threatens to inflame Israeli-Palestinian tensions and provoke outrage across the region.”

Across the region?

The sub-headline should read:

The decision threatens to inflame Israeli-Palestinian tensions and provoke outrage and violence across the planet. The US will be targeted for revenge.

My office was 3 blocks from the WTC on 9-11. I lost friends.

This move by Trump, utterly devoid of an historical understanding, will lead to events that make 9-11 look like the appetizer.

This is a disaster!


Nonsense. The way that Trump has beefed-up the State Department will totally make this OK. :rofl:


Fact is, in 1995 the Jerusalem Embassy Act passed 93-5 in the Senate and 374-37 in the house. The law required moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. This is just another law the executive branch refused to implement for decades. I see it still creates outrage on the left to implement federal law.


Didn’t 3 former presidents PROMISE to do the exact same thing and NEVER followed up ???


But now it’s different because the President is following the law. Oh and because TRUMP. So they need to all meltdown and the Muslims need to have their day of rage - which just strikes me as any other day in the Muslim world.


The satanic Pope is fearful of revelation. God’s will cannot be stopped Francis. If this does not happen today then eventually it will. Christians accept reality.


Let us hope that it doesn’t bring that upon us. Oh, and it hasn’t been moved yet, he signed the periodic extension in June as the previous presidents have done every six months. If he makes this happen, it won’t be before spring.


I actually never thought it was a good idea. But I agree with you that this isn’t something that Trump pulled out of his ass.


Bill Clinton signed this move into law. Once again, journalists are not doing their jobs and portraying facts. More proof that there is nearly zero accuracy in reporting in modern journalism.


None of the presidents have implemented this “law” because it’s been viewed by all as infringement on the EB.

Since passage, the law has never been implemented, because of opposition from Presidents Clinton, Bush, Obama [5], who view it as a Congressional infringement on the executive branch’s constitutional authority over foreign policy; they have consistently claimed the presidential waiver on national security interests.


Ivanka and Jared must be so proud that they made their masters happy today.


More leftist BS ! Shrug :wink: quack ,quack …


It hasn’t been implemented more because these three presidents wanted a trophy of having ‘fixed’ the Israeli / Palestinian issue. None of them succeed and Trump sent people to the region to try to find a solution… end diplomacy. Understand, Palestine was never a nation, Israel was. Israel has its faults in this entire process but the 1973 war was not provoked by Israel other than its mere existence in the middle east… Perhaps Israel should have annexed all of the Sinai, Lebanon and Syria… job done… but alas, they didn’t

It’s time for the Palestinian terrorists and the rest of the world to let Israel live in peace…


I thought you liked and wanted bipartisanship… 90 - 0 sounds like congress wanted this deal done… until it didn’t… kind of like repeal of the ACA…


Trump has already been warned by regional leaders of its folly. It’s a completely unnecessary and provocative move.

The creation of the state of Israel is dubious to begin with. It was historically the land of Palestine quite logically occupied by Palestinians. Until the British pulled its troops following the UN resolution and Jews flooded in from around the world and the Palestinian occupants were raped, pillaged and burnt out as they were driven to the tiny lands they presently occupy with scant civil rights. The event did come at a price to the Palestinians. And it created a Palestinian refugee crisis of nearly a million.


You forgot that exiled bit…


Early History of Israel

Much of what scholars know about Israel’s ancient history comes from the Hebrew Bible. According to the text, Israel’s origins can be traced back to Abraham, who is considered the father of both Judaism (through his son Isaac) and Islam (through his son Ishmael).

Abraham’s descendants were thought to be enslaved by the Egyptians for hundreds of years before settling in Canaan, which is approximately the region of modern-day Israel.

The word Israel comes from Abraham’s grandson, Jacob, who was renamed “Israel” by the Hebrew God in the Bible.

It’s always great to just go back to where you want YOUR history to begin.

(BCE - Before the Common Era)

17th century
Abraham, Isaac, Jacob - patriarchs of the Jewish people and bearers of a belief in one God - settle in the Land of Israel.
Famine forces Israelites to migrate to Egypt.
c.13th century Exodus from Egypt: Moses leads Israelites from Egypt, followed by 40 years of wandering in the desert.
Torah, including the Ten Commandments, received at Mount Sinai.
13th-12th centuries Israelites settle in the Land of Israel

Records are a bit sparse from that era.

Palestinians about 12BCE.

Who was there first is now irrelevant.


Bipartisanship is the mound where the illiterate bernie bot can grand stand and look down on us, the “hyper-partisans”. If Trump did the opposite, the illiterate bernie bot would still grand stand. Anything but Trump.


Though he campaigned for it against George H W Bush, he never did sign it and in the end opposed it.

Every six months for more than two decades, U.S. presidents have had to decide all over again whether to move the U.S. embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. Since the Clinton administration, they decided each time to keep the embassy where it is, seeking not to throw a wrench into delicate Middle East peace talks.

By 1995, the administration found itself opposing the Jerusalem Embassy Act, which was passed by wide margins in both houses of Congress, but was left unsigned by Clinton. The bill stated that the American embassy should move to Jerusalem within five years. The last three U.S. presidents have all made sure to sign a waiver every six months, putting away the implementation of this legislation. Clinton showed no intention of fulfilling it until the very last stages of his presidency.


The hard headed TIC won’t care, he recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel today.

Trump was warned by many in the Middle East and elsewhere of the “disastrous consequences” the move would have on regional stability - and any prospect of a long-lasting peace agreement between the Israelis and Palestinians.

No country currently has its embassy in Jerusalem and the international community, including the US (until now) does not recognise Israel’s jurisdiction over and ownership of the city.