Trump Moves US Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem


#42

Exactly what the dems are known for promises and laws intentionally ignored !


#43

So much for Trumpian policies to curb terror. :roll_eyes:

On Friday, the militant al-Qaida network urged followers around the world to target vital interests of the United States, its allies and Israel. A statement posted on al-Qaida’s media arm as-Sahab called for holy war or jihad and described America as an oppressor of Muslims.


#44

#45

Well we just might get some change of attitude with respect to the Palestinians. But other than a tense peace, whatever we’ve been doing for the last quarter century hasn’t been very productive… What is it that they say about insanity…


#46

No he didn’t, and provocations are not the way to peace.


#47

LOL, the palestinians live to protest and riot.

Much like our inner city kiddies.


#48

Actually, the fact that this board (by and large) gets behind even this move of the TIC’s is evidence enough that he could in fact commit murder on fifth ave and the BOD’s would still be with him!! The loud mouth, shoot from the hip, tell everybody to fuck off, his own SOS, AG, speaker, the FBI, etc., ban the transgenders and the Muslims, pick fights with people of color, it’s the loud, nasty, boisterous, bitch slapping arrogance that appeals to the BOD’s. So who cares if he starts further trouble with the Muslim world. And if I’ve seen it once I’ve seen it posted a hundred times that the people that identify as the BOD’s wear the term as a badge of honor, shrug.

Of all the issues at the heart of the enduring conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, none is as sensitive as the status of Jerusalem. The holy city has been at the centre of peace-making efforts for decades. Donald Trump’s approach to it threatens to smash a long-standing international consensus in a disruptive and dangerous way.


#49

Thought I’d drop our latest video in this thread. (I’m noob)
http://www.rightsidenews.com/world/israel/trouble-little-jerusalem-john-fitzgerald/


#50

Well welcome. You’ll feel right at home here. :blush:


#51

Thanks. I actually love this site. I had joined during the election under a different name prior to owning right side news.


#52

This may be worth its own thread, but how did Israel go from the country that was willing to take substantial risks to achieve a two-state solution throughout the 1990s to a place where Netanyahu and politicians like Netanyahu are so popular? I know that the intifada of the early aughts was a traumatic experience, but is that really the predominant factor? I mean, Oslo happened after nearly a decade of conflict with the Palestinians and Hizballah. What are the factors I’m not considering?


#53

While Trump is doing this stupid thing largely to make his ardent right wing Zionist and Evangelical base happy, plus feed his ego and divert from tax bill and Russia, the entire Democratic and Republican Party, with almost no exceptions, has allowed Israel to maintain and expand its colonial rule, with never ending ethnic cleansing. Trump is not qualitatively different from Obama, who whined about Netanyahu, but gave him what he wanted. Only Eisenhower and Carter ever said no to Israel and meant it. Everyone else is complicit. Read Nathan Thrall’s latest book for the details, with copious documentation. Hillary Clinton was glued to Haim Saban, the Dems Adelson on Israeli matters. In some ways Trump exposes the underlying phoniness of the US two state posturing, which was never going to happen as long as Israel and AIPAC had a veto power on US policy. Although the odds of success are daunting too, fighting for Palestinian rights in a bi-national state is the only way forward. Israel has never had an interest in a viable Palestinian state. The heralded play Oslo celebrated something more akin to Munich in terms of what really was going down.


#54

Perhaps it’s Trumps realization that the policies of his predecessors failed to bring peace and encouraged the Palestinians to believe that no one will ever hold them accountable for their support of terrorism.
Unlike every previous president, he seems to have grasped, that the necessary predicate for peace must be Palestinians’ acceptance of Israel’s permanence and legitimacy as well as an end to their financing of terror.


#55

The Second Intifada was a traumatic event, of course! But it alone did not get everybody to the current situation. The Israeli government action after the Second Intifada also took steps to create the current problem. The separation of the Palestinians from Israelis has allowed the “Israeli street” to just put Palestinians out of their mind. The two sides simply don’t mix. What happens in Palestine may be only a few miles away, but it is a world away mentally for the average Israeli.

With that separation, propaganda by the Right is able to set the narrative for most Israelis. We see in the US the effects of our RW information bubble; it works in other places also.

Arafat believed in Rabin and Rabin’s desire for a viable Palestinian state. With Rabin’s assassination, we will never know if Arafat’s faith was well placed or not.


#56

President Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is the perfect response to President Obama’s benighted decision to change American policy by engineering the United Nations Security Council Resolution declaring Judaism’s holiest places in Jerusalem to be occupied territory and a “flagrant violation under international law.” It was President Obama who changed the status quo and made peace more difficult, by handing the Palestinians enormous leverage in future negotiations and disincentivizing them from making a compromised peace.

It had long been American foreign policy to veto any one-sided Security Council resolutions that declared Judaism’s holiest places to be illegally occupied. Obama’s decision to change that policy was not based on American interests or in the interests of peace. It was done out of personal revenge against Prime Minister Netanyahu and an act of pique by the outgoing president.


#57

President Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is the perfect response to President Obama’s benighted decision to change American policy by engineering the United Nations Security Council Resolution declaring Judaism’s holiest places in Jerusalem to be occupied territory and a “flagrant violation under international law.” It was President Obama who changed the status quo and made peace more difficult, by handing the Palestinians enormous leverage in future negotiations and disincentivizing them from making a compromised peace.

It had long been American foreign policy to veto any one-sided Security Council resolutions that declared Judaism’s holiest places to be illegally occupied. Obama’s decision to change that policy was not based on American interests or in the interests of peace. It was done out of personal revenge against Prime Minister Netanyahu and an act of pique by the outgoing president.

Actions have consequences even if the actions were from a former president.


#58

I agree completely…


#59

President Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as Israel’s capital is the perfect response to President Obama’s benighted decision to change American policy by engineering the United Nations Security Council Resolution declaring Judaism’s holiest places in Jerusalem to be occupied territory and a “flagrant violation under international law.” It was President Obama who changed the status quo and made peace more difficult, by handing the Palestinians enormous leverage in future negotiations and disincentivizing them from making a compromised peace.

It had long been American foreign policy to veto any one-sided Security Council resolutions that declared Judaism’s holiest places to be illegally occupied. Obama’s decision to change that policy was not based on American interests or in the interests of peace. It was done out of personal revenge against Prime Minister Netanyahu and an act of pique by the outgoing president.

Actions have consequences even if the actions were from a former president.


#60

The 1947 creation of Israel was inconsiderate to the people that were evacuated to make way for it. And the Jews, of all people should have empathy for the people that they oppress. Of all Obama’s disastrous foreign policy, one of three good foreign policy moves was to censure Israel’s settlement building in Palestinian areas.


#61

Are you saying that the Jews are not entitled to have their own home land?