WINNING! Mexican Who Had Been in the US Illegally for 30 Years Deported on MLK Day


So youre pissed at history??? Really? So what makes you more noble or better than anyone else who ever lived? Wow.


That’s how the world works. That’s why nations from time immemorial have had ARMIES.


That’s an unfortunate and uninformed comment.

Here’s the reconquest that’s been at play.


Not Reconquista. La Raza. “The Race”. Now THOSE are some racist brown people right there.


That’s an odd question. But indeed it is what it is so you’d best be excepting Mexicans coming here without documentation.


Yes, I know. One is an ambition, the other a group.


Lol, is that a Freudian slip or what. Indeed, many nations have armies for offensive purposes, certainly the US.

Btw, did you notice that the party that would become the Republican Party called bullshit on president Polk’s claim that Mexico attacked US territory, knowing full well that it was in disputed territory, and they accused the president of committing an unconscionable land grab. Which is precisely what Polk was doing. In fact, president Polk ran for president on a Manifest Destiny platform, accomplished it in his first term, having promised Americans that if they’d elect him president, he’d expand the nation to the Pacific Ocean, and not seek a second term. Which he did not.

That’s the brutal truth about the Mexican American war, and the reason that if anybody in California, Arizona, Nevada or New Mexico are there illegally, it’s certainly not Mexicans.


Well, you’ll never catch them all but I’m damn glad we finally have a President who cares about the U.S. tax paying citizen. America first and always.


True. Most undocumented immigrants are paying taxes.


Hey… Santa Anna decided to impress his will on the people who lived in the area of the new independent nation of Mexico known as Tejas… The people who had settled and lived their long before Mexico declared itself sovereign took exception… Dictator Santa Anna (the son of a Spanish colonial) was the problem here and he was the problem for the people of Texas who in turn declared their independence for the brutal hand of Mexico… Texas applied for annexation after 10 years of independence (about have as long as Mexico had been a nation) and with its inclusion under the US flag, the Texas / Mexico issue became a US / Mexico issue…


The Cost of a Border Wall vs. the Cost of Illegal Immigration

By Steven A. Camarota on February 15, 2017

The findings of this analysis show that if a border wall stopped a small fraction of the illegal immigrants who are expected to come in the next decade, the fiscal savings from having fewer illegal immigrants in the country would be sufficient to cover the costs of the wall. This analysis takes the likely education level of illegal border-crossers and applies fiscal estimates developed by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (NAS) for immigrants by education level. NAS calculates the future fiscal balance immigrants create — taxes paid minus costs. NAS reports fiscal balances as “net present values”, which places a lower value on future expenditures than on current expenditures.

Based on the NAS data, illegal border-crossers create an average fiscal burden of approximately $74,722 during their lifetimes, excluding any costs for their U.S.-born children. If a border wall stopped between 160,000 and 200,000 illegal crossers — 9 to 12 percent of those expected to successfully cross in the next decade — the fiscal savings would equal the $12 to $15 billion cost of the wall.1

Among the findings:

There is agreement among researchers that illegal immigrants overwhelmingly have modest levels of education — most have not completed high school or have only a high school education.
There is also agreement that immigrants who come to America with modest levels of education create significantly more in costs for government than they pay in taxes.
A recent NAS study estimated the lifetime fiscal impact (taxes paid minus services used) of immigrants by education. Averaging the cost estimates from that study and combining them with the education levels of illegal border-crossers shows a net fiscal drain of $74,722 per illegal crosser.2
The above figures are only for the original illegal immigrants and do not include any costs for their U.S.-born descendants. If we use the NAS projections that include the descendants, the fiscal drain for border-crossers grows to $94,391 each.
If a border wall prevented 160,000 to 200,000 illegal crossings (excluding descendants) in the next 10 years it would be enough to pay for the estimated $12 to $15 billion costs of the wall.
Newly released research by the Institute for Defense Analyses (IDA) done for the Department of Homeland Security indicates that 170,000 illegal immigrants crossed the border successfully without going through a port of entry in 2015.3 While a significant decline in crossings from a decade ago, it still means that there may be 1.7 million successful crossings in the next decade. If a wall stopped just 9 to 12 percent of these crossings it would pay for itself.
If a wall stopped half of those expected to successfully enter illegally without going through a port of entry at the southern border over the next 10 years, it would save taxpayers nearly $64 billion — several times the wall's cost.


Record $135 billion a year for illegal immigration, average $8,075 each, $25,000 in NY
by Paul Bedard | Sep 27, 2017, 6:30 AM
Record $135 billion a year for illegal immigration costs

The swelling population of illegal immigrants and their kids is costing American taxpayers $135 billion a year, the highest ever, driven by free medical care, education and a huge law enforcement bill, according to the the most authoritative report on the issue yet.

And despite claims from pro-illegal immigration advocates that the aliens pay significant off-setting taxes back to federal, state and local treasuries, the Federation for American Immigration Reform report tallied just $19 billion, making the final hit to taxpayers about $116 billion.

State and local governments are getting ravaged by the costs, at over $88 billion. The federal government, by comparison, is getting off easy at $45 billion in costs for illegals.

President Trump, Attorney General Jeff Sessions and conservatives in Congress are moving aggressively to deal with illegals, especially those with long criminal records. But their effort is being fought by courts and some 300 so-called “sanctuary communities” that refuse to work with federal law enforcement.

The added burden on taxpayers and the unfairness to those who have applied to come into the United States through legal channels is also driving the administration’s immigration crackdown.

The report, titled “The Fiscal Burden Of Illegal Immigration on U.S. Taxpayers,” is the most comprehensive cost tally from FAIR. It said that the costs have jumped about $3 billion in four years and will continue to surge unless illegal immigration is stopped. It was provided in advance exclusively to Secrets.

“Clearly, the cost of doing nothing to stop illegal immigration is far too high,” said FAIR Executive Director Dan Stein. “President Trump has laid out a comprehensive strategy to regain control of illegal immigration and bring down these costs,” said Stein. “Building the wall, enhancing interior enforcement and mandating national E-Verify will go a long way in bringing these ridiculously high costs under control,” he added.

Over 68 often shocking pages, FAIR documents the average $8,075 in state, local and federal spending for each of the of 12.5 million illegal immigrants and their 4.2 million citizen children.

Broadly, the costs include $29 billion in medical care, $23 billion for law enforcement, $9 billion in welfare, $46 billion for education.

Just consider the cost of teaching an illegal alien child who doesn’t speak English. FAIR estimates an average cost of over $12,000 a year, and that can reach $25,000 in New York. Add to that welfare, health care, school lunches, and the per student price soars.

In state costs alone, California leads the list at $23 billion per year, followed by Texas at $11 billion, and New York at $7.4 billion.

And it also documents the taxes paid and how they don’t come close to offsetting the costs. What’s more, FAIR noted that 35 percent of the illegal population operate in an underground economy hidden from tax collectors. And worse, employers hire illegals and either pay them cheaply or under the table.

“The United States recoups only about 14 percent of the amount expended annually on illegal aliens. If the same jobs held by illegal aliens were filled by legal workers, at the prevailing market wage, it may safely be presumed that federal, state and local governments would receive higher tax payments,” said FAIR.

Key findings pulled from the report:

The staggering total costs of illegal immigrants and their children outweigh the taxes paid to federal and state governments by a ratio of roughly 7 to 1, with costs at nearly $135 billion compared to tax revenues at nearly $19 billion.
The nearly $135 billion paid out by federal and state and local taxpayers to cover the cost of the presence of 12.5 million illegal aliens and their 4.2 million citizen children amounts to approximately $8,075 per illegal alien and citizen child prior to taxes paid, or $6,940 per person after taxes are paid.
On the federal level, medical ($17.14 billion) is by far the highest cost, with law enforcement coming second ($13.15 billion) and general government services ($8 billion) third.
At the state and local level, education ($44.4 billion) was by far the largest expense, followed by general public services ($18.5 billion) and medical ($12.1 billion).
The top three states based on total cost to state taxpayers for illegal immigrants and their children: California ($23 billion); Texas ($10.9 billion), and New York ($7.5 billion).


Not even close to covering the cost of their lawlessness.


Are you seriously comparing the Unites States of America with Russia and Iran ?


In that regard (the context that I put it in) hell yes. Would you like to explain the difference to me between Russia or Iraq taking territory by force and the US doing so???


The rape of Berlin
"With horror on their faces, they told me what had happened on the first night of the Red Army’s arrival," he writes.

"‘They poked here,’ explained the beautiful German girl, lifting up her skirt, ‘all night. They were old, some were covered in pimples and they all climbed on me and poked - no less than 20 men,’ she burst into tears.

"‘They raped my daughter in front of me,’ her poor mother added, ‘and they can still come back and rape her again.’ This thought horrified everyone.

“‘Stay here,’ the girl suddenly threw herself at me, ‘sleep with me! You can do whatever you want with me, but only you!’”

By this stage, German soldiers had been guilty of sexual violence and other horrors in the Soviet Union for almost four years, as Gelfand had become aware as he fought his way to Berlin.

Berliners recall Red Army atrocities
Gunther Grass, the German writer and winner of the Nobel Prize for literature, was the first to break the taboo this year with a novel chronicling the fate of ethnic Germans who died by the thousands in a massive postwar ethnic cleansing of Czechoslovakia, Hungary, Poland and Russia.

Beevor dug out Soviet archives clearly demonstrating that Soviet commanders knew about the barbarism and rapes by their troops. When the book was released in the United States and Britain last spring, the Russian ambassador to Britain called it “lies, blasphemy and slander.”

Some estimates, compiled by Beevor, suggest that up to 2 million German women may have been raped by the Soviets at the end of the war. Records show that at least 100,000 women were raped in Berlin, and that 90 percent of the city’s women contracted venereal diseases. The number of abortions rose dramatically in the spring of 1945, as did the number of women who committed suicide.

Hitler vs. Stalin: Who Killed More?
Of those who starved, the 3.3 million or so inhabitants of Soviet Ukraine who died in 1932 and 1933 were victims of a deliberate killing policy related to nationality. In early 1930, Stalin had announced his intention to “liquidate” prosperous peasants (“kulaks”) as a class so that the state could control agriculture and use capital extracted from the countryside to build industry. Tens of thousands of people were shot by Soviet state police and hundreds of thousands deported. Those who remained lost their land and often went hungry as the state requisitioned food for export. The first victims of starvation were the nomads of Soviet Kazakhstan, where about 1.3 million people died. The famine spread to Soviet Russia and peaked in Soviet Ukraine. Stalin requisitioned grain in Soviet Ukraine knowing that such a policy would kill millions. Blaming Ukrainians for the failure of his own policy, he ordered a series of measures—such as sealing the borders of that Soviet republic—that ensured mass death.

Don’t whitewash the Iranian regime’s crimes

The regime’s treatment toward dissidents, especially members and supporters of MEK, has been brutal throughout the years. In 1988, in a massive purge of Iran’s prisons, the regime executed 30,000 political prisoners, most being linked to MEK. Mostafa Pourmohamadi, Iran’s current justice minister, was one of the main orchestrators of the heinous crime. Ebrahim Raisi, a presidential candidate in the recent presidential elections, was another key player in the event that has become known as the “1988 massacre.”

The authorities heavily suppressed the rights to freedom of expression, association, peaceful assembly and religious belief, arresting and imprisoning peaceful critics and others after grossly unfair trials before Revolutionary Courts. Torture and other ill-treatment of detainees remained common and widespread, and were committed with impunity. Floggings, amputations and other cruel punishments continued to be applied. Members of religious and ethnic minorities faced discrimination and persecution. Women and girls faced pervasive violence and discrimination. The authorities made extensive use of the death penalty, carrying out hundreds of executions, some in public. At least two juvenile offenders were executed.


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The rape of Berlin

Well, I could talk about the two nuclear weapons that the US used on two civilian targets in Japan, the firebombing of Tokyo. Killing civilians to break the spirit of the Japanese leadership, same with the bombing of Dresden or secret war in Cambodia. But I was clear to you of the context of my comparison so deal with it accordingly.


Is something wrong with you ! In your hate of President Trump have you become anti American !
By dropping those two bombs during the second world war America saved millions of American lives by not having to invade Japan .
America and our citizens come first !


Not everybody at the time or since agreed with that assessment. That’s just the side that American abuse of power has hid behind. All the examples that I gave are war crimes right now. And, General Curtis LeMay knew at the time that he was directing the fireboming of Japanese civilians in Tokyo that if the US lost the war, he’d have been tried for war crimes. So dispense with your bullshit about hating America. You blame America here for crimes every god damn day yourself, and I have a duty as an American citizen to do the same thing holding my government accountable and accepting our responsibility for atrocities around the world.


The poor japs that gave us Pearl Harbor
The Bataan Death March
The Rape of Nanking
The Bangka Island Massacre
The Sandakan Death March
Murder and cannibalism on the Kokoda Track
Murder and Cannibalism on the Kokoda Track
The dive-bombing of the Hospital Ship Manunda
The sinking of the Hospital Ship “Centaur” by a Japanese submarine
I may blame politicians and organizations even to globalist , MSM WTO NAFTA to name a few but I don’t ever mean to attack the people of or the United States of America past or president !